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The Sonic Thread V2

WHAT'S THE BEST SONIC  

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  1. 1. WHAT'S THE BEST SONIC

    • THE CLASSIC SONIC
    • THE MODERN HENTAI SHIT
    • BOTH KICK ASS YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
    • THEY BOTH SUCK HENTAI QUILLS


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VGFM

WILL THE PROPHESY FINALLY COME TRUE???

No really, what is the point of this? I don't think that anybody wants to see Underground get a proper conclusion, because no one gives a shit about Underground.

Why not do SatAM instead since it ended on a cliffhanger.

The entire Archie comics series is more or less a continuation/retelling of the Satam series, so that would be a bit redundant.

Also, Scratch, Grounder, and Coconuts do exist in the Archie Comics universe, but they were only minor villains to begin with, and now they operate a night club owned by a different villain. So, in the loosest possible sense, the comic writers probably consider AoStH to be fully incorporated into their continuity. I guess we'll never find out whether Robotnik gets to cum on Wes Weasley or not.

As for Sonic Underground ending, the main writer of the Archie comics claims that 10% of all the fan mail he's received has been requests for him to do a Sonic Underground story, though I find that hard to believe. If the finale ends up revealing that Oracle guy as being the real villain, I'll be happy, since that's something of a running joke that I started on the group-annotated Sonic Underground series on Youtube.

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SuperYoshi

The ABC series and Archie may share the same universe and characters, but their stories had nothing to do with each other, especially with what the writers had intended for the third season. At the time the Archie comic was still in its goofy era. It didn't start taking itself seriously until about 1996.

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Grease Witherspoon

Why does sonic love chili dogs so much?

Is it because he's gotta shit faster?

Anyways is it worth watching sonic x with subs or are the dubs good enough?

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VGFM

Why does sonic love chili dogs so much?

Is it because he's gotta shit faster?

Anyways is it worth watching sonic x with subs or are the dubs good enough?

subs all the way. Also, the first season is probably the worst one because it focuses the most on Chris and the other humans.

edit: also the dub changed the music to 4Kids stock music. The music in the original wasn't amazing or anything, but it was still better than in the dub. Plus, the subbed version uses Live and Learn in one of the season 2 episodes.

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don't worry, there is no danger, instead of aking advantage of Sonic's abscence, Eggman joined in with the olympics

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I haven't played any of the Olypmic games (games?) but the music is really good.

It's pretty surprising how much better these are than most of the remixes in brawl.

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EmmBee

Sega put their own spin on a lot of Mario music. It sounds amazing, since Sega's music is usually amazing anyway.

This one's probably one of my favorites, mainly due to the use of actual instruments. I'd love to hear a Mario game use guitars and drums like this.

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WILL THE PROPHESY FINALLY COME TRUE???

No really, what is the point of this? I don't think that anybody wants to see Underground get a proper conclusion, because no one gives a shit about Underground.

it may be hard to believe

but there is a audience for everything

besides

the cover art looks kickass~~

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I recently tried to give Sonic Underground a chance but I only made it like 3 episodes in before I gave up. I think Noz did a good job of covering why it's shitty in his article about it but for me the most egregious things about Sonic Underground:

-Why the hell did they let Jaleel White play the girl hedgehog? It's so jarring to hear him imitate a girl voice for half an hour

-We already had a much better 'serious' take on sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog: The Animated Series)

-The songs they sing are unbearably bad. Don't you wish they just lip synced Crush 40 songs? That would have made it way more kickass.

-The writing was shitty and blander than oatmeal

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I watched episode 1 of the Annotated Series, and the plot is literally driven by the oracle guy, and nothing else. The characters only do things because this pig lizard man said it was their destiny.

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Grease Witherspoon

I came across several articles suggesting that Michael Jackson was involved in the sonic 3 soundtrack but he didn't like how it turned out due to the sega music limitations so he chose not to be credited. Or it could have had to due with allegations at the time.

http://vghl.wordpres...mooth-criminal/

There is also an interview with one of the composers of the game that confirms his involvement:

'B&W: Can you clarify the rumor that Michael had in 1993 composed the music for Sonic 3 video game, for which you havel been credited?

Buxer: I've never played the game so I do not know what tracks on which Michael and I have worked the developers have kept, but we did compose music for the game. Michael called me at the time for help on this project, and that's what I did.

And if he is not credited for composing the music, it's because he was not happy with the result sound coming out of the console. At the time, game consoles did not allow an optimal sound reproduction, and Michael found it frustrating. He did not want to be associated with a product that devalued his music...

B&W: One of the surprising things in this soundtrack is that you can hear the chords from Stranger in Moscow, which is supposed to have been composed later...

Buxer: Yes, Michael and I had composed those chords for the game, and it has been used as base for Stranger in Moscow'

Also wikipedia says 'Sonic's blue pigmentation was chosen to match Sega's cobalt blue logo, and his shoes were a concept evolved from a design inspired by Michael Jackson's boots with the addition of the color red, which was inspired by both Santa Claus and the contrast of those colors on Jackson's 1987 album Bad; his personality was based on Bill Clinton's "Get it done" attitude'

There are lots of sonic and Michael Jackson mashups on youtube.

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You can really hear Michael's influence in a lot of tracks in the game

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SuperYoshi

I've always kind of doubted that Michael didn't like the sound coming out of the system. After all, he was perfectly okay with his songs in Moonwalker, both the arcade game and the Genesis game. I'm sure it must have been a rights issue. There was probably something from Sony, who published his records, preventing his name from being on the game without Sega paying an asston of money, considering Michael, despite the then-recent controversy, was still pretty much the biggest name in music then. Much like how he was prevented from not only having his name on The Simpsons episode he cameoed in, he also couldn't sing on the episode.

It's nice that we can finally confirm that he did work on the game, but it's a shame that we'll never know the truth of what happened during it.

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VGFM

I recently tried to give Sonic Underground a chance but I only made it like 3 episodes in before I gave up. I think Noz did a good job of covering why it's shitty in his article about it but for me the most egregious things about Sonic Underground:

-Why the hell did they let Jaleel White play the girl hedgehog? It's so jarring to hear him imitate a girl voice for half an hour

-We already had a much better 'serious' take on sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog: The Animated Series)

-The songs they sing are unbearably bad. Don't you wish they just lip synced Crush 40 songs? That would have made it way more kickass.

-The writing was shitty and blander than oatmeal

I think what's even more perplexing is that they went for Sonic, Manic, and Sonia as the main characters instead of Sonic, Tails, and Amy. Sonia is basically a carbon copy of Amy (that is to say, a horrible female stereotype), and in the show Sonic oddly plays the role of the straight man (except when an episode's moral tries to make a point of his impulsiveness), which is completely against his usual personality. So, basically, they could've given Manic's personality to Sonic, and Sonic's SU personality to Tails, and it would have meant scrapping the dumb "triplets" backstory and it would be less likely that Jaleel White would do the voices for all three characters. Wouldn't fix every problem with the show, but it would be a huge improvement.

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Grease Witherspoon

Yeah you really hit the nail on the head as far as poor characterization is concerned.

Also there is one thing that isn't important at all but still bothers me just a little.

I could be wrong but it appears that Sonic and his siblings/mother are fighting to restore a monarchy rather than to instill a Republic, democratic or socialist government.

Sure the Robotnik dictatorship should likely be overthrown as his regime has grown corrupt and Robotnik seemingly doesn't represent the interests of the masses.

Sonic and his family seem like they would rule with a high degree of benevolence. However, a monarchy is still a monarchy.

Not to mention they seem really into fufilling some sort of magical prophecy. How am I supposed to take these hedgehogs seriously when they tell me a lizard wizard's prophecy and some magical instrumentals give them the authority to rule?

Thinking long term, even if sonic became king I see no guarantee that his offspring could rule with an iron fist similar to the robotnik regime.

Of course I haven't seen all of Sonic Underground.

Does anyone know if Sonic or his family ever mention whether or not they will dissolve the monarchy and form a democratic society?

Do they mention much about their policies other than that they are probably far more pro-environmentalism than Robotnik?

I suppose they can't be any worse than Robotnik but still.

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Why did you turned a Sonic Underground discussion into a political discussion?

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Why did you turned a Sonic Underground discussion into a political discussion?

Well technically I was discussing the political implications of the uprising in sonic underground.

Most people don't like monarchies anymore, even if the king is Sonic.

Of course a sonic controlled monarchy would likely be better for the citizens of mobotropolis than Dr. Robotniks regime was but still.

It's obviously not an important or serious subject. The show is bad regardless. I was just over-analyzing it for my own amusement.

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