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Now that Prime 4 and Samus Returns are announced, we should probably retitle the thread to something witty.

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On 7/1/2017 at 0:39 PM, Nozdordomu said:

So, who else is excited as hell for Metroid Prime 4?

Sure, we don't know much about it and it might not be great (and Retro isn't working on it, oh well), but I still can't wait for it to come out. If it had been called anything but Metroid Prime 4, I don't think I would've been so pumped.

I'm not overly concerned about Retro not working on it. I'm assuming Nintendo is developing the game in-house instead, and I think it will be interesting to see the Japanese take on the Prime formula.

What I'm wondering is, how connected will it actually be to the Prime trilogy? Is it going to involve Metroid Prime, Dark Samus, Phazon, etc.? Or is "Prime" now just a code word for a first person Metroid game, similar to the "Solid" in Metal Gear coming to mean it's a 3D game?

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It's likely going to involve Sylux from Prime: Hunters in some way.

His spaceship can been seen in the secret ending for Prime 3, and then there's Federation Force's secret ending which seems to hint at his return judging from his silhouette shown at the end. Not to mention the Kensuke Tanabe, the producer of the Prime games, said that he did want to build on the relationship between him and Samus. Even with what little information is given about Sylux, he's depicted to be a bounty hunter that harbours some hatred towards the Galactic Federation and by extension Samus, so I guess I can understand why Tanabe would want to bring him back, and I could imagine Sylux being a reoccurring character in Prime 4.

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Full details on the Amiibo functionality for Samus Returns.

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And some new official artwork as well.

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I love how these provide a better look at Samus's new Varia Suit design. They really pushed the values and saturation on the CG too, It's a perfect blend of stylization and reallism.

You even see Samus's shots reflected on the damp stones and everything!

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Is the "Summoning All Heroes" slogan something unique to this video in particular or something? 

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So the reviews are coming in, and apparently the game is stellar. Well color my knickers.

I tried playing through Super Metroid, but it was a little too archaic for my tastes. I may be inclined to give this one a shot, though. I don't think I'll run out and get it, but it's definitely a contender for my Christmas wish list.

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I could tell it looked good from the footage I saw, and I mean that genuinely instead of a "trying really hard to convince myself it could be good" kind of way.

I still don't get why you think Super is archaic. Is it just because of the slightly technical controls?

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I'm all set to buy it in about a few days, especially after the Metroid Challenge provided me a good warm-up for the 2D fare.

The soundtrack is also pretty damned swell so far. A much needed improvement over Other M's orchestral mess.

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Super Metroid is anything but archaic, other than a bit of getting used to the controls it plays similarly to every 2D game that came out after it.

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It was the save system, really. I was fine with the gameplay, the problem was redoing large swathes of gameplay over and over again, which I have zero patience for.

It's why I gave up on Alien: Isolation. A good game was buried in there, but I just couldn't get past the trial and error save system.

And it's not like I'm wholly against trial and error, but short iteration time is key. It's why I don't get mad at, say, Rayman Origins if I die over and over because I can immediately try again right where I left off, whereas in these other games I have to go through 5 minutes worth of content I've already played through. It's not challenging, it's tedious.

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Most Metroid games from Super onwards utilise the same save system, and it's only as of Corruption did they start implementing checkpoints, even if it's only for boss fights and some of the more action-heavy sequences.

I don't find myself dying that frequently in Metroid games these days for repeating certain things to be a problem, but there are definitely moments where the difficulty can have a nasty spike that can be really annoying to put up with upon repeated tries. The second visit to Sector 2 (TRO) in Fusion comes to mind with how much damage the enemies there can deal, and it comes right after a forced S-AX encounter which already can shave off most of your Energy unless you're skilled enough to avoid taking damage altogether, but even then the whole SA-X sequence and finding a save station afterwards generally takes only a couple minutes to do, so I never found it to be that big of an issue.

I mean, yes, those moments do happen, but I find those instances to be a bit rare unless you're playing on a harder difficulty setting. In the 2D Metroid games it's not so much of an issue given how quickly you can rush through things and do what you need to, but in Metroid Prime where your movement speed isn't quite as speedy, the load times involved with going into other rooms taking a few extra seconds than I would otherwise like at times (Especially if I'm under attack and would rather get the hell out of dodge), and how lengthy some of its bosses can be by comparison is where I do get slightly aggravated. Thank God Corruption was sensible enough to include pre-boss fight checkpoints. If it weren't for those, I probably would've ragequitted at Dark Samus on my Hypermode playthrough.

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Yeah if anything that's more of a problem in the Prime series, which are much slower games. In Super and the other 2D games you can dash back to exactly where you need to go in no time.

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25 minutes ago, The Pope said:

It's why I gave up on Alien: Isolation. A good game was buried in there, but I just couldn't get past the trial and error save system.

Huh? I played though that entire game on Hard and I don't think I was ever killed while saving. Just don't save when you hear the fucking ayylien bumping around.

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I wasn't killed while saving, but the saves were so far and few between, there were tons of instances where I'd save, have to walk into an area, sit through a 2 minute long in-engine cutscene, then get into an Alien-stalking section, and if I died, back to square one baybee.

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I don't remember there being many cutscenes at all in the game, and most of the few that were there were at the very beginning. As for saves being far apart, well, that's the nature of the beast, literally I suppose. You need to have a reason to be afraid of the Alien (besides the simple fact that it's actually fucking terrifying).

As for Super Metroid, I haven't played it, but that's a totally different scenario where the obtuse save system is probably just a technical limitation.

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