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I never finished Sun. It sorta bored me with how slow paced it was, not mentioning the battle text. Which is a shame, because even with Pokemon Black, a game I regarded as inferior because I was being a genwunner and disliked 90% of the pokemon, I picked up eventually and ended up enjoying it more than I thought I would and at least finished the elite 4. It introduced rotation battles and while I wasn't too keen on them at first, really grew on me as a concept. Sun's Z moves never interested me all that much (I don't think I ever got chance to even use one yet), and while the concept of trails was interesting, I found the first (and only one I did) dull and annoying having to backtrack and chase that pokemon. Also that rotomdex was seriously the worst thing, it's so infuriating, I can never get to just look at the map, it always talks to me. I didn't even find it cute. So for me, I'm really not interested in Ultra Sun or Moon.

Rowlet is pretty much the best thing to ever come out of that game. Or pokemon in general. Man, that's a cute owl.

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Speaking of starters, man was Incineroar disappointing. Litten is super cute, but Incineroar's just a big dumb doofus. Easily the weakest of the final forms of the Gen VII starters.

Honestly poor Fire hasn't had anything good since Infernape, and I don't even like Infernape all that much. Blaziken will forever be my home-dog, #2 favorite Pokemon for life baybee.

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I'm a slut for fire starters I guess because I thought Incineroar was cool. I liked the idea of a wrestler cat just breaking other mons over its knee. I guess I like it for the same reason I liked Emboar; I'm a fan of the concept. Emboar was a cool, tough sumo pig. So Incineroar was more in the same vain for me.

But, I do think the other final evos are stronger design wise, yes. Primarina is super duper pretty, definitely one of the best water final evos we've had in a long while.

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Sun was the first and only Pokémon game I ever beat, so that alone allows me to judge it objectively.

Incineroar grew on me though, and it's part of the reason I went through with choosing Litten in the first place.

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I thought Diamond was worse with slowness so Sun being slow didn't bother me

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Gen VI bored me to death, and I only even finished the game because I was egged on by my friends to do so. I would have dropped it otherwise.

I thought Tony Tiger was fine, and I also liked fire pig, so I can only conclude that my taste is the best and everyone else is plebian. I hope we can at least agree that Delphox delsux.

In all seriousness though, it's always so disappointing when pre-evolutions have better designs than their fully evolved forms. I love Dartrix, but Decidueye looks stupid. Mareanie is literally my favorite, but I can't say I care for Toxapex. And this isn't a new thing, either - Wartortle is so much cooler than Blastoise, and Dragonair was done a great injustice by evolving into a goofy Barney doll. Evolving these Pokemon feels more like a punishment than a reward.

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Delphox was awful, especially since Fennekin and Braixen were really cute.

And speaking of DPP, I'm at gym 3 of Platinum and I just can't really bring myself to keep going? I don't know what it is about Sinnoh but I hate the way this region is mapped out. There's so much goddamn backtracking, it drives me insane. I have come to love my Bronzor though? It's a lovely little metal pancake and I can always count on it to get me out of a jam.

Gen 4 starters are all hot garbage though, at this point Prinplup is just around because why the hell not.

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Yeah, the Gen IV starters are, as a whole, pretty damn bad. I prefer Infernape, but really it's the lesser of three evils.

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I place Torterra and Empoleon in the "fine" category. They're not my favorites, but I also don't dislike their designs. My somewhat unpopular opinion is that I actually like a lot of Gen IV Pokemon, but the starters are not really among those. 

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Infernape was my choice for Diamond, the others looked dumb imo (Piplup is kinda cute tho). That game truly was the slowest of the slow but it still kept me engaged through to the end and I really like the music. I also caught my first ever shiny in that game, and my shiny Ponyta which I had been searching for since Leaf Green, so it holds some emotional significance to me.

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I can't totally hate Gen 4. There are actually a lot of gems in it. A lot of my favorite Gen 2 mons saw badass evos thanks to Gen 4.

Weavile and Honchkrow are some of my most favorite mons.

So as much as I gripe, it's not the worst thing ever. I don't like it, but it's not without its good points.

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I actually don't particularly like any starters, as a rule. Maybe it's because they get so much exposure and coverage, I'm already sick of them by the time the game comes out. And they never get really creative with the starters, it's always fire/grass/water, always fairly normal designs as far as Pokemon go. You never get any starters with crazy or unique designs, because those are all saved for legendaries or harder to find Pokemon.

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Pokemon XD is superior because you start with an Eevee and get to choose which type to evolve it in to, so nya

Goddamnit I really really want a remake/sequel.

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Typhlosion is my favorite starter and Pokemon forever and always.

It's simple, but it comes off as really fierce. It's got one of the coolest cries in the game.

I remember evolving it as a wee lass in Silver and was blown away.

And I know that's an unpopular opinion but dammit I love my fire badger.

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Leafeon is one of my favorite Pokemon, and I have a soft spot for Glaceon. Palkia is also one of my favorite legendaries. Other than those, though, the majority of Gen IV's roster to me ranged from "it's alright I guess" to "kill it with fucking fire".

As for starters, I'm okay with them being grass/fire/water since they're the easiest to help new players wrap their heads around elemental strengths and weaknesses. That being said, I'd always be down for more crazy stuff.

For reference, here are all of the possible starter type combos we haven't seen yet:

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Grass/Normal
Grass/Fire
Grass/Water
Grass/Electric
Grass/Psychic
Grass/Rock
Grass/Ice
Grass/Bug
Grass/Dragon
Grass/Dark
Grass/Steel
Grass/Fairy

(Rowlet's tree has both Flying and Ghost subtypes)

Fire/Normal
Fire/Water
Fire/Grass
Fire/Poison
Fire/Electric
Fire/Ground
Fire/Rock
Fire/Ice
Fire/Bug
Fire/Dragon
Fire/Ghost
Fire/Steel
Fire/Fairy

Water/Normal
Water/Fire
Water/Fighting
Water/Flying
Water/Grass
Water/Poison
Water/Electric
Water/Psychic
Water/Rock
Water/Ice
Water/Bug
Water/Dragon
Water/Ghost

Of note, none of the starters have yet to use the subtype of Normal, Grass, Fire, Water, Electric, Rock, Ice, Bug or Dragon. You can argue Megazard X is Dragon, which is true, but none of the starters have Dragon as a main subtype. Maybe that'd be seen as too powerful? Though with Fairy now in the game, Dragon has enough of a check that I think a starter dragon would be acceptable (hell, having all three starters turn into dragons of different styles would be pretty cool, like one would be an eastern-style shenlong dragon, one could be a western-style firebreathing dragon, and the last could be an ocean-dwelling serpent dragon). Normal we'll probably never see since Normal subtypes are so rare (Alola Rattata/Raticate, Litleo/Pyroar and Helioptile/Heliolisk being the only Pokemon to have it), and we'll probably never see Grass/Fire/Water as subtypes for obvious reasons (that being said, having a trio that's Grass/Fire, Fire/Water and Water/Fire or Grass/Water, Fire/Grass and Water/Grass would be pretty damn nifty). Bug is a weird situation as bugs are usually kept for weak early encounters, and it'd be hard to add Bug in a later evolution and the Pokemon would need to be Bug from the start. Still, I could see it happening. That leaves Electric, Rock and Ice, and I'm honestly baffled we haven't seen a Water/Ice starter yet.

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Dual Normal types don't even make sense. I would think that "Normal" should mean "has no elemental characteristics of any other type," and that all Normals should be mono type only. But then you have dual types that clearly break that rule, so what does "Normal" actually represent? I don't get it.

Back in the older games, there was more logic to this. Normal types were either regular animals (birds, rats, etc), or they otherwise didn't cleanly fit into another type (Porygon, Jigglypuff). They introduced Fairy type to more accurately describe some former Normals, which is fair enough. But they've also been adding weird combinations like Normal/Fighting, Normal/Ground, and so on. Why? If it's a fighting type, it's not normal anymore, is it?

There is the rare occasion when it can make sense. Girafarig is a normal ass giraffe, except for the fact that it has a second, psychic head with its own brain in the tail. That's one case where a Normal/Psychic typing was actually pretty clever, and it was unique at the time.

So, here's an exercise. Take any Normal dual type Pokemon other than Girafarig, remove the Normal type, and see if the remaining mono type doesn't still accurately represent the Pokemon. It pretty much always does.

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Blastoise I still have a soft spot for out of nostalgia, and Grovyle's my bro, but my thoughts on the other starters pretty much echo Whelt's, they're either OK (any of B's starters or butt-ugly (Brionne)

I've also said a million times that I have an irrational hatred for the Eevee line out of overexposure alone, especially with Sylveon. I really can't think of any other reason why because objectively they're fine designs, but I can't force myself to get the widespread appeal of "dog/cat/whatever thing but with an elemental quirk". To me, they're some of the most gimmicky Pokémon out there.

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Look at this perfect electric fucker I love it so much. I almost always go for it when I have an Eevee.

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5 minutes ago, Whelt said:

So, here's an exercise. Take any Normal dual type Pokemon other than Girafarig, remove the Normal type, and see if the remaining mono type doesn't still accurately represent the Pokemon. It pretty much always does.

Sawsbuck's winter form doesn't have any plants on it

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2 minutes ago, Nelson340 said:

Sawsbuck's winter form doesn't have any plants on it

I don't know if this is nitpicky but I always saw its white antlers in winter form as like, birch trees? Its antlers are like tree branches so that's just the image I get.

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