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Goddammit MrSimon.

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Oh yeah, I just realized that since I caught up on Steve I can read through this thread again.

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This arc was wild, it's been a while since I think any shit actually got real. I feel like they went above and beyond to make Lars even shittier than ever right before dumping him heroically on Homeworld, though; I know they were trying to go for some kind of redemption arc but all I could think was "good riddance" lmao

 

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First time posting here. If any of you are diehard fans, please don't crucify me.

So I was originally on the fence about Steven Universe. I had heard the stories about some of the worst kinds of toxicity coming out of the fandom at points, but I didn't think the show itself could be that bad. I've since been binge watching the show as of late (I'm approaching the halfway point of Season 3, so I'm still a ways behind), and I can safely say my doubts have been eased, and the show's actually really damn good. I can sort of relate to a lot of the themes and morals and shiz they talk about, since a lot of it's happened to me in my life (not to get sentimental). And I think I'm definitely gonna continue watching, 'til I'm all caught up.

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It's good you took a chance on it, even if there was a possibility you could've ended up not liking it. Just stay away from most of the fanbase, because it is still fairly toxic. It feels like every other week there's some new "controversy" about them or something they think is wrong about the show.

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Speaking of controversies...

Personally, I didn't see too much of a problem with Concrete's design (it's obviously a very incomplete idea and design for a character; who knows what her hypothetical final design could've looked like), but I can see why others might have a problem with it. Sky Williams made a response that kinda shares my feelings on the situation.

 

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Honestly the only part you could really argue is racist is the "can't read" part. I mean, I guess she does look kind of ape-like in one of the drawings, but honestly, so did Garnet at times. All they really need to do is change or remove the "can't read" bit and the problem is solved.

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I actually don't give a shit about fandoms, sure some fandoms aren't perfect, but that's how the fanbases are; as long as I don't get involved with their shit. Plus, I give Sugar an credit about release her sketches because they are fine to me. Speaking of gems, has anyone seen Jewelpet series? It has the similar concept as Steven Universe, but Pearl doesn't have her Jewelpet form, which sucks.

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I find it very hard to believe that the drawing was made with a racist intent and clearly was an accident/carelessness

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Knowing her art style I assumed the dark color to her just meant it was a black and white sketch and that she'd look different in color. Was probably intended to be grey anyway, considering she's supposed to be concrete.

This whole controversy felt really unnecessary, and I feel like a lot of the people complaining about it either don't watch the show or don't like it.

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10 minutes ago, EmmBee said:

Knowing her art style I assumed the dark color to her just meant it was a black and white sketch and that she'd look different in color. Was probably intended to be grey anyway, considering she's supposed to be concrete.

This whole controversy felt really unnecessary, and I feel like a lot of the people complaining about it either don't watch the show or don't like it.

Actually considering the fanbase I'm pretty sure most if not everyone doing the complaining are fans.

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Can someone post the character in here? I've honestly not heard of this hubbub until you guys brought it up.

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5 minutes ago, The Pope said:

Can someone post the character in here? I've honestly not heard of this hubbub until you guys brought it up.

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She does kinda invoke Jynx feelings

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Looking up, I think I saw something about how her lips wouldn't look as bad when colored in/in motion, and that people jumping to assume that a thick-lipped black woman is racist is, in and of itself, racist.

I dunno where I stand on this whole thing, she's not a character actually in the show so I see no reason to get upset over it, and there's plenty of great black-coded characters, Garnet being the obvious choice, Bismuth's good too (though I've heard some voices against her for continuing the "angry thuggish black woman" stereotype), and Amethyst...I have no idea what the hell she's supposed to be coded as, hispanic maybe? But yeah, between them and the Maheswarans, it's pretty clear that Sugar's anything but racist, she just didn't think the design through. No harm no foul in my book.

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My stance is I don't give a shit, and why should I? The show is already super diverse and inclusive almost to a fault, nothing good will come of railing on the designer for one poorly thought out design that didn't even get into the show.

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There's even been fanart of her that looks a lot better, and more fitting with the show's aesthetics, than the one piece of concept art.

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And then there's even updated artwork from the guy who designed her in the first place (along with insight into her design). So I guess at the end of the day, this is just another episode of "the SU fandom is fucking insane and needs to calm the hell down."

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People really need to stop overreacting shit when it comes to art. Like sure, stereotypes is bad. We get it. But that character doesn't look like she's black, because she's a fucking gem. People really need to grow the fuck up.

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Trailer teasers from the San Diego Comic Con.

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Would the space pirate Lars be related to the main plot? 

The part about Lapis though. Would she leave Earth, or fuse with Peridot or something?

 

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So Lars becomes a space pirate. Fucking awesome! But still, can't believe Steven Universe is almost over.

 

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Have they outright stated Season 5 will be the last yet? I haven't seen any confirmation in that regard.

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