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Which Fire Emblem game(s) do you most want to see remade/remasterered in the near future?  

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  1. 1. Which Fire Emblem game(s) do you most want to see remade/remasterered in the near future?

    • Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light/Mystery of the Emblem (again)
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    • Genealogy of the Holy War/Thracia 776
    • The Binding Blade/The Blazing Blade
    • Sacred Stones
    • Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn


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zoc

Three? Haha holy shit Im gonna be having a blast then, I think Im gonna make all the soldiers mercs. Something about a beefcake like Valbar running around in a Dread Fighter outfit is funny af to me lmao.

Its funny cus I only remember there being like one fork at launch, did they add more later on or something or did I just miss the other two being there at first?

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They did gradually add more, there were updates for about a month.

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Ah ok. That explains it.

I hear the post game dungeon is apparently a good challenge so Ill be giving that a go as well once I rip Duma a new asshole again.

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That and itd be interesting to see the secret boss who is supposedly a prototype of the final boss of Awakening or w/e.

 

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The postgame dungeon is harder than anything else in the game, but it's still pretty easy by Fire Emblem standards. I only failed it once due to a dumb mistake, if I remember.

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Right, Ill keep that in mind. Looking back the final map was a pretty huge clusterfuck btw haha, most of the bosses were on the right and you had to be REALLY careful with positioning since Duma has ridiculous attack range. Shit was nuts.

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I understand that not a lot of us are all that interested in FE Warriors given its strong focus on Shadow Dragon, Awakening, and Fates, but I think Koei might have finally managed to break the ice.

Probably what intrigues me most is that there was a listing for the Limited Edition of the game on some European department site which popped up a couple days ago that had a high quality image that depicted sprites of some of the characters in the game. The site has removed the image from the listing, but I managed to grab it from elsewhere.

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About everyone that had been announced for FE Warriors so far is there and accounted for, but there are a couple characters that we still haven't heard anything about officially. Aside from Lyn, there are sprites for Tiki, Caeda, Anna, and Celica. With Lyn's recent reveal, I guess that confirms that this not an edit, and so all of these unannounced characters are going to be playable. Tiki may have been a given since she's got an amiibo coming, and the same could be said for Anna as we've already seen her in the game beforehand (Albeit not in a playable for), and on top of that, the recent trailer that Nintendo UK uploaded shows off Caeda in the background toward the end of the trailer.

The trailer that Nintendo of America uploaded is the same, but Caeda is seemingly missing from the same shot, so it looks like Caeda was indirectly revealed early by complete accident. Yes, it's another Shadow Dragon character, but in stark contrast to the roster's ratio for Awakening and Fates characters, it does seem kind of odd that there's only three characters confirmed given that Koei said they would be focusing primarily on Shadow Dragon alongside Awakening and Fates. Not that I have any problem with that; it's just strange in hindsight. And that leaves us with Celica who aside from the box art of the Limited Edition, has yet to be seen anywhere else. But given everything else we've seen just now, she seems more than likely to be confirmed, and I'm completely okay with that if only to give us more representation of some of the lesser known FE games. And hey, I've been having a good time with Shadows of Valentia at the moment (Aside from those units that summon more units anyway which I feel just pads battles out).

It may not be a lot, but it's at least something to show that they do care for representing other FE games to some degree, and it raises some hope for the likes of Ike showing up, even if it winds up being as DLC.

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So apparently Azura isn't in the game...but Iago is.

Their reasoning was that they didn't want too many characters from Fates. So they left out the Deuteragonist, and instead left in probably the most boring villain in the franchise's history.

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I mean, I still really give little to no fucks about this thing, but that's absolutely pathetic.

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The villains in Fates (Or hell, a majority of the characters in Fates as a whole) were pretty dull to begin with, but given they had to choose one villain from Fates as the game has villains from both Shadow Dragon and Awakening present, who would be the best choice in that regard? The only other choice that comes to mind is Garon, and even he was rather one-note, having not much else to him outside of being an typical asshole tyrant. Then again, either choice makes just about as much sense if not more than Agitha being playable as one of the main representatives of Twilight Princess in Hyrule Warriors.

Also, with the recently announced DLC packs, each one covering Fates, Shadow Dragon, and Awakening respectively, it's possible that they could be adding Azura in later on as DLC (With a little Tweet I found relating to the DLC which I shall bring up in a moment supporting this further), but the fact that she's not in the main game at all to begin with, even as an NPC seems very bizarre, especially when you take into consideration the History Mode it has which basically lets you play through battles from the other FE games with the Warriors-style gameplay. But one thing that does stand out to me is a little something that got brought up after the DLC packs were announced, and that's this:

Aside from practically confirming Azura as DLC, that second Tweet in particular really intrigues me, because if Hayashi is really going to follow up on his words, it seems likely there's still a chance for characters like Ike to make it into the game. Going back to Hyrule Warriors again, while that only focused on three games in particular like FE Warriors did, even that game had the decency to add in characters from other Zelda games through DLC, and I feel this supports the case of seeing characters from other FE games showing up in FE Warriors later down the line. Granted, only time will tell as to whether or not that ends up being true, but it's something to go on at least for the time being.

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Garon is a bland doofus, but I'll gladly take him over Iago. He's the kind of sniveling mustache-twirling villain that shows up on like Chapter 5, not as one of the primary antagonists.

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Dark Fox lent me his copy of Revelation a few days ago, and I managed to beat it on Normal/Classic without much difficulty. Some of the maps were kind of interesting and it's kinda fun (albeit superficially) to have pretty much every character available in one route, but I really don't care for the story and I just didn't get into it. Corrin is probably more of a Gary Stu than in either of the two previous routes, given how unbelievably important he is to the plot, his general capabilities (swords, tomes, and dragonstones?), and just how adored he is by virtually everyone.

The plot point of not being able to speak of Valla beyond its borders was pretty silly too, and it could've probably been avoided with some writing changes. Perhaps, rather than reveal the puppetmaster so early, have Corrin and Azura stumble upon Valla by accident and learn that something is controlling everything behind the scenes, though they aren't sure what. Have there be some kind of mystery surrounding the true villain and have them try to solve it while also trying to end the war between both kingdoms along the way. Maybe Corrin et. al. can save Ryoma and Xander from a monster attack or something to earn their trust, I don't know. This is just a basic foundation, of course, but I'd say it's far less dopey than being magically forbidden from talking about Valla and it allows for some kind of mystery.

The villains remain one of the worst parts of the game and the ultra heavy emphasis on romance/support still comes off as awkward. Mechanically, the game is alright and it's not the worst thing I've every played, but I doubt I'll ever pick up a copy for myself. Primary team below. Kagero, Mozu, and Corrin were my MVPs, in that order.

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Also had Kana and Caeldori on my team at times, but I think I benched them for the last fight.

 

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Looking back on Fates these days, it's really such a bizarre little cluster fuck of a game. It's basically Squandered Potential: The Game. There were strokes of genius in it, but it's washed over by dumb plot, dumb villains, and half of the game's cast being boring as tar. Conquest wasn't much better than Birthright but at least I liked most of that cast. Shit even in Revelation my parties always consisted mostly of Nohr characters. Revelations plot was really, really dumb and convoluted I agree. It could have been so much better, definitely pretty lousy for a "true ending" sort of path.

And yet, I still look back on this objectively bad game and I still find it more fun to play than Awakening before it. I also liked way more characters than in Awakening. I dunno'. I have a weird relationship with Fates.

Oh and on a Heroes note they're bringing in more Genealogy characters which is cool. Sigurd, Dierdre and Tailtiu are gonna be added.

I managed to pull Nephenee from the past PoR banner and I also got the new Performer Olivia from the special dancer/singer banner.

I don't plan to roll on the Genealogy banner, but if I happen to get something while I'm rolling for other stuff then whatever.

Still waiting for Joshua, IS.

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Playing the Fire Emblem for the story seems silly to me considering they're only decent at best, the way I see it is that you play the games for the gameplay and if the story is any good then it's a nice bonus. I'm currently on my 6th playthrough of Conquest and I'm still hankering for more due to it's good level design/map objectives and the amount of unit customization options.

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Dude I played Conquest like four times just because it's fun to play.

Fates in general has really great game play, the maps and mechanics are fantastic.

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Oh good, I thought your comments about the story represented your experience as a whole with the game.

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Oh no like, I may not call this game the best in the franchise story wise but I still enjoy it.

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I feel like I've already said my bit on Fates before, but basically, I liked it but I didn't love it. Conquest was almost unreasonably difficult for me, and I found the complexity of the gameplay to be a little excessive. There are so many different team building choices you can make and things to keep track of. I guess that makes the game endlessly replayable, but it was overwhelming. I don't think this is a bad thing at all for people who like that sort of game, but I'm into games of a slightly simpler nature. That's why I liked Awakening and Echoes considerably more.

I suppose I could have played on Normal instead of Hard... but then I would feel like a loser

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I've said my piece on Fates countless times, but overall it boils down to this; overall story/writing in general is horrid and several gameplay mechanics aren't my cup of tea but Conquest has all-around clever map design (even if the last few maps nosedive into straight bullshit territory) and it can be fun finding unit partnerships that work. It's not an awful game, just heavily flawed and mediocre. 

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8 hours ago, Ozarhok said:

Playing the Fire Emblem for the story seems silly to me considering they're only decent at best

:(

The stories for 7, 9 and 10 are great. It's part of why they're the best.

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I can give games like Awakening a pass for having an unremarkable plot. As long as the characters are generally interesting or at least likeable, then a generic plot isn't that big of a deal.

The gameplay of Fates is fine for the most part, but I just wish it had been in service of a better story, preferably one where the avatar has a vastly less important role.

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