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Which Fire Emblem game(s) do you most want to see remade/remasterered in the near future?  

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  1. 1. Which Fire Emblem game(s) do you most want to see remade/remasterered in the near future?

    • Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light/Mystery of the Emblem (again)
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    • Genealogy of the Holy War/Thracia 776
    • The Binding Blade/The Blazing Blade
    • Sacred Stones
    • Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn


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No, cutscenes don't change. You'll find out everything by the time the game ends.

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So, I'm assuming by the way that people can actually survive certain attacks during cutscenes in this game? Because sometimes it will say something like it's a 97% chance to hit. Does the story change then/you get the character?

 

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Basilio is a badass.

 

Speaking of bad ass, Mustafa is seriously awesome. In fact, that chapter where you have to fight him and his Plegian soldiers was easily the most emotional part of the game for me. Also, the music is one of my favorite pieces in the game.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWO4ff1HXYY

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I thought that chapter went way overboard in trying to be emotional, and it just felt akward, though I do like that song.

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I disagree; I think it was easily one of the most emotionally powerful chapters in the entire series, and that track is one of the best songs in the whole series.

 

Overall while there are things I dislike about Awakening, I've got to say that its soundtrack is overall probably my favorite of the series.

 

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It's very hard to pick just one song that I love from the game.

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Id (Purpose), Conqust (Ablaze), and "Don't you speak her name...!" are probably my favorites from this one.

 

Arena Ferox will probably mostly just get Awakening musical representation, which I'm cool with; I just hope Colosseum in Wii U's Smash gets some stuff from past games, because they all have pretty stellar soundtracks.

 

 

You know, I really love 13 (Awakening)'s soundtrack, but 10 (Radiant Dawn) might still hold that crown for me. If some of them got reorchestrations with, you know, actual orchestras, I would probably die.

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I still have a soft spot in my heart for 7's, mostly because of nostalgia. The GBA had some pretty bad sound in my opinion. I mean there are still good songs for the games on GBA but overall the sound chip did not do anyone any favors. Awakening is technically better in almost every way but nothing says Fire Emblem to me more than say Stratagem and the ever popular Together We Ride. Just my opinion though.

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As far as gameplay goes, Awakening probably has the worst to offer to the series since the really early games. Bland stage design, uninteresting map objectives and the fighting mostly revolving around sending paired-up units in different directions where they rout everything in sight. I sure have a feeling Pair Up isn't returning in the next game (should they make one, because iirc they have been seriously considering quitting prior to Awakening); it's broken beyond belief.

 

It probably succeeded on all other fronts sans gameplay though - but I'll always believe it's this component that's central. Okay, I guess I didn't enjoy the anime cliche-ridden storyline/character content either, but I could more than ignore it if the game were good.

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Awakening was probably the most successful release outside of Japan, so I'm sure they will make more. But yeah pair up will likely be overhauled because it kind of was broken.

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One of my biggest problems with Awakening is pair up, I hate turning half of my units into glorified stat boosters. It's not as bad on Normal, but for parts of Hard & all of Lunatic, it's practically a must.

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No other game in the series has pairing up.

 

So if you like the rest of the game but don't like pair up...uhhh, try another game!

 

A brief history for the uninitiated:

 

1-6 were never released stateside. 1-2 were on NES; 1 (Shadow Dragons and the Blade of Light) starred Marth, while 2 (Gaiden) took place in the same world and time but on a different continent and starred Alm.

 

3-5 were on SNES; 3 (Mystery of the Emblem) was a remake of 1 with a bit of 2 and an extra story added in, 4 (Genealogy of the Holy War) starred Seliph and his son Sigurd, and 5 (Thracia 776) starred Leif, and took place in the middle of 4.

 

6-8 are on GBA; 6 (Binding Blade) is the one with Roy, 7 (Blazing Sword, or just "Fire Emblem" to us stupid illiterate Americans) was the first to be released stateside and stars Roy's pappy Eliwood and friends (including Lyn, who you may recognize as an Assist Trophy). 8 (Sacred Stones) is the only standalone game in the series, and stars incredibly incestuous twins Eirika and Ephraim.

 

9 (Path of Radiance) was on GC, starring Ike. 10 (Radiant Dawn) is the sequel on Wii, which starts off with a new cast led by Micaiah, but Ike eventually factors back in.

 

11-12 were on DS. 11 (New Shadow Dragons and the Blade of Light, or just "SHADOW DRAGON" to us stupid Americans) was a remake of 1. It was poop. 12 (New Mystery of the Emblem: Heroes of Light and Shadow) was a remake of 3 (which is a remake of 1 mind you, so much Marth circle-jerk christ), and I hear it's decent, but I wouldn't know because it was only released in Japan. Whoops!

 

And then 13 is Awakening.

 

So to recap, if you live stateside, you have legal access to 7-11 and Awakening. My personal recommendations are 7 and 9. 10's my personal favorite, but 7 hooked America onto the franchise for a reason; it doesn't have a lot of the other games' flashy mechanics, but it's just so solidly put together. 9 is pretty easy, but I love the hell out of it. If you like 9, move on to 10; don't play 10 first, though, because the game makes no attempt to clue you in to 9's story, assuming you've already played it. 8 is good, but not amazing; the least good of the stateside games. I say least good, because 11 isn't even good; it's crap, and the only game in the series I regret buying.

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I agree with The Pope as far as recommended games go, 7 & 9 are excellent introductions to the series (if you don't mind how pricey they can be).

 

I have a few of the Japanese only ones, and they're easy to play through while reading a translation online. The texts come in spurts, so you don't have to keep looking for the script everytime someone says something, save the occasional town visit & boss quote. I've easily played 3 & 6 this way.

 

Or you could just emulate them and apply an english patch

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I played a patched 6.

 

It was...okay. Not bad, I'd put it around 8 level of quality.

 

Maybe it's because I'm jaded, but it just didn't have the same level of oomph that 7 did.

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Parring up has the disadvantage of giving you smaller numbers to work with, so there's that. At the same time it's a slow and steady way to victory if you pair people well.

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You say to play 7 and 9, but I don't own a gamecube, and I gave away my Advanced.

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Not to mention, the GC and Wii games are absurdly expensive now. Unless you emulate or shell out for it, it's not easy to get.

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Parring up has the disadvantage of giving you smaller numbers to work with, so there's that.

 

Except if you've played a single game in the series (hell, a single chapter), you'll understand that the game defaults on the mindset that small, powerful armies are always superior to massive, weak armies.

 

Also, 7's on the eShop if you live in Europe. I'm really hoping Gamecube games will come to the Wii U eShop soon; there's really no reason for them not to be on there, unless some bullshit about disc space, but that's a lousy excuse.

 

I guess all I can say is either get the original games or keep your ears open. I can only hope that 7 will come to US shores on the eShop soon enough, and the idea of playing 7 on the big screen/gamepad with built-in savestates is awesome. Might motivate me to finally try to beat the game on Hard.

 

Yeah, I've never beaten 7 on Hard. Shit's fuckin tough.

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Don't feel too badly Pope. I've not beaten it either. I've also realized I will never beat Hector Hard mode because I had a difficult time getting through Hector mode on normal.

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I can do Hector Normal okay, but Eliwood Hard? fergetaboutit

 

Today I think I could manage it; the last thing I recall is Chapter 14 and Erik suddenly showing up with a fucking Silver Lance or something instead of an Iron Lance wrecking my shit.

 

With 8 and 9, though, Hard's the only way I get any challenge out of them, they're so easy. Though Hard in 9 does have its own complications, namely trying to fight the Black Knight and Ashnard. Oh how I long for the day where I can redo those fights with save states.

 

Fuck Hard on 10, though. I love that game, but Hard isn't even fair. It doesn't just jack up enemy stats; it removes the weapon triangle and disables your ability to see enemy range. That's not difficult, that's annoying and only serves to fuck with your head.

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I never had difficulties with either of 7's hard modes, mainly because I boss abused the last boss of Lyn Hard Mode so that all the characters I'm using form that mode are at level 15, someday I'll go through Hector Hard Mode without going through Lyn mode. 8 & 9 weren't really difficult at all, not much to say about those. I liked 10's hard mode, outside of a few annoying chapters (1-F for example), it wasn't too bad. 13's Lunatic mode was crazy brutal for the first 6 chapters, but gets a  lot easier once I got Robin up a bunch of levels. And I had Donnel as a hero with a forged brave sword & Olivia pair up that could solo most of the game if he wanted to.

 

But 6 has to be the hardest hard mode I played. The hit rates are awful, the maps are too big; meaning that each chapter goes on for too long, for the first 9 or so chapters all of the enemies have equal or higher stats then most of your units, and it has two of the hardest/most annoying chapters in the series, chapter 7 (you have to rush to rescue 3 green units, two of which die really easily, there's two wyvern riders that have crazy stats that are really hard to take down, the reinforcements that show up a few turns in have silver weapons) & chapter 14 (desert, fog of war, you have to protect a very fragile unit, hordes of reinforcements, basically has 3 bosses, you have to beat it in a certain amount of turns, very tough dragon enemies, & sleep staves). I don't think I'll be playing 6's hard mode very often.

 

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