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Isabelle's reveal was pretty chill unlike other reveal trailers where characters get fucking killed in front of our eyes.

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Folks complaining that Isabelle being in Smash not being enough of a bombshell are missing the point that her inclusion (and the way they revealed the game) was, more than anything else, a way to troll audiences about Animal Crossing 2019, because Nintendo are cruel but generous tricksters who would absolutely go out of their way and spare no expense to get peoples' hopes up and then shred them before their eyes, before reproducing those hopes in full, actually unharmed.

Also, publicity.

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I've never played an Animal Crossing game in my life but clearly Isabelle is a fan favorite so I'm not going to shit on people who wanted her in. 

It's one fighter out of almost seventy. It's gonna be fine.

Furthermore I don't need every reveal trailer to be a bombshell announcement. Aside from Shadow (because Crash Bandicoot is a bit of a pipe dream at this juncture), I can't think of any other characters that I'd personally want to see, Ultimate has covered so many bases already - and I'm sure there are a few more tricks up Sakurai's sleeve.

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Okay, so I'm not the only one who thought some ignorance was being spewed in the previous page about Isabelle.

I may as well also add that she seems to feel like she didn't take as much time to develop considering:

  • She has a couple of things from Villager
  • It's entirely possible that her reveal trailer used assets from that new Animal Crossing game considering how much of a double jebait it was.

Anyways, because I already preordered the special edition, I'm seriously stuck on getting the Smash Ultimate Switch Hardware bundle, keep the dock and Joycons, and then just sell off the Switch on ebay or something. I do wonder if anyone would buy just a blank, like new Switch though. Maybe for their homebrew needs perhaps, but still.

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The Pope

At this point, trying to remain realistic, my guesses on the last remaining fighters are:

Skull Kid
The Black Knight
A new Pokemon (Blaziken or Gardevoir would be great but it's probably going to be Incineroar and it's going to fucking suck)
Geno (or Neku; some reliable "my uncle works at nintendo" leaks say a Square rep remains unrevealed so my money's on one of these two as they're the most tied to Nintendo, though they're both rather obscure in the grand scheme of things)
Shadow
Ken
Maybe a few more echo fighters (Jeanne would be cool) but not many more

That's my final newcomer estimation. I could be off the mark, but judging by the hints we've gotten (primarily how we've had 4 Mii costumes upgraded to full fighter status and among those remaining Skull Kid and the Black Knight seem the most logical), I'd say I'm keeping my expectations in check.

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1 hour ago, SharkhamAsylum said:

Isabelle

 

1 hour ago, SharkhamAsylum said:

not a bombshell

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Is the first one just Sam from iCarly or...

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Also now that Isabelle is in, other missing Assist Trophies are highly suspect. I fully expect Shadow as either a Sonic echo or semiclone now.

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I was under the assumption, and probably many others were as well, that all newcomers in Ultimate were either going to be echo fighters or totally unique. With a semi clone, that kind of opens a few doors. Shadow might not even be an echo now, he could be a semi clone. And if he is, he could be #69

But I'm pretty much 100% expecting Shadow now in some form. I'll honestly be surprised if he's not in.

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I'm putting my money on either Shadow being a echo fighter and classic Sonic being a semi clone or vice versa.

And yes, I believe Classic Sonic is possible because of how "in" he is right now because of Sonic Mania.

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Here's the chart I made and posted on my discord last night.

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Make of it what you will.

I'm steadfast in Skull Kid getting in, and Black Knight due to him vanishing from Castle Siege. Past that is anyone's guess.

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It would be funny if Shadow ended up not even happening after how much people seem certain about him. That his exclusion as an Assist Trophy is just a matter of "well we'll use Knuckles for a change" and nothing more than that.

That being said I'm not opposed to Shadow. I wouldn't mind a second Sonic character, and he's totally a fit for an Echo Character. Still, I can't imagine my 9-year-old Melee playing self would be thinking of Shadow before Tails, Knuckles, or even Eggman.

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The only way I don't see Shadow getting in is if Nintendo deliberately holds him back from the base game so that he can be DLC, since he seems highly-requested among younger/casual fans and would be easy money.

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1 hour ago, Whelt said:

With a semi clone, that kind of opens a few doors. Shadow might not even be an echo now, he could be a semi clone.

This could also apply to any Ryu clone. Ken was the obvious pick due to him being the most similar to Ryu and being the original echo, but Akuma and Sakura are more popular and apparently don't have to worry about exceeding the limits of an echo.

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I'm not huge on Ken, but he would be the most seamless addition. Akuma and Sakura have enough different about them in the actual games that I think they'd lean more towards semi clone in Smash. I'd totally prefer the latter two over Ken but I feel that for additional third party reps they're gonna want to stay within echo fighters, but who knows.

Or better yet, Dan as Ryu echo, instant main.

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5 minutes ago, SushieBoy said:

Or better yet, Dan as Ryu echo, instant main.

An unlock for clearing 2-player classic mode on highest difficulty with one player being Pichu and the other being Dan.

Make it happen, Sakurai.

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2 minutes ago, Nelson340 said:

Clear 2-player classic mode on highest difficulty with one player being Pichu and the other being Dan.

Make it happen, Sakurai.

Who does it unlock?

Well, let's just say Goldeen is the useless PokeBall summon instead of the more obvious choice for a reason.

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Would Dan damage himself after every attack he makes?

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On 9/14/2018 at 4:00 PM, P-Dash said:

I'm putting my money on either Shadow being a echo fighter and classic Sonic being a semi clone or vice versa.

And yes, I believe Classic Sonic is possible because of how "in" he is right now because of Sonic Mania.

Classic Sonic would be cool no doubt, but Sonic's moveset is already an amalgamation of his abilities from both his old games (Spin Dash) and current games (Homing Attack) so unless it's a Young/Toon Link situation where the alternate form is faster and lighter than the original it would be a bit repetitive. Ironically, Classic is considerably chubbier than Modern so who's to say he wouldn't be heavier, lol. 

Watch it be an Echo fighter from left field, like Metal Sonic, or something. I'd be disappointed in no Shadow but that would be fucking hilarious.

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