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Or "General Cliché Discussion" if that would work better.

I can't think of a whole lot of times I was really impressed by use of time-travel. Usually the second it gets involved is an immediate red flag of the plot slowly eating holes into itself. And while it's pretty much impossible to incorporate any use of time travel without some form of plot hole, even when it's used really well, usually the best it gets relative to the plot is "harmless", at least if the gimmick itself isn't relied on as a constant plot device.

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    I like when a character defeats a powerful villain using their with instead of high power.

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    I really hate when the main "Hero" character is commonly portrayed as just barely winning, like we didn't see it coming. The best example being Bleach (at least the first 150 episodes or so since that's all I watched, if that) in which almost every major fight follows the formula of Ichigo fights guy and loses/Ichigo fights guy again and wins with new superpowers.

     

    Similarly, when the supposed ultimate evil in the universe is succeeded by something more powerful after maybe one or two filler episodes with no real conflict. Just end the fucking show already.

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    We should probably have them merged. The previous one is archived.

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    If it's archived, we might as well just go ahead with this thread.

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    I hate references to "666" in media. It's so overdone and tacky, and often feels like they just slapped it on there for some easy, meaningless symbolism.

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    I feel exactly the same way about any use of "Lazurus" in anything relating to regeneration or age reversal.

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    I like when an antagonist character turns good and stays that way.

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    I fucking love train fights. Whether it's on a railroad bridge with a train rapidly approaching, or on top of a train that's barreling down the tracks, or a brutal fistfight in the dangerous arena of a subway tunnel with electric rails on the ground, or a brawl inside of a subway train that's cramped and crowded. Two examples that spring to mind come from Raimi's Spider-man trilogy.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00fTwhmYX0

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enod0r7Q50Q

     

    I'm all about this shit.

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    I hate references to "666" in media. It's so overdone and tacky, and often feels like they just slapped it on there for some easy, meaningless symbolism.

    There are not as bad as "420" references.
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    I would to see a character stuck in a situation where a character is forced to choose to either save the world, or save someone the character loves, and the character actually chooses to save the world and sacrifice it's beloved one.

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    I hate references to "666" in media. It's so overdone and tacky, and often feels like they just slapped it on there for some easy, meaningless symbolism.

    There are not as bad as "420" references.

     

     

    At least with 420 they're not trying to go "WHOOOOOA 666 LOOK AT THIS DEEP SYMBOLISM WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT IT'S SYMBOLIC OF BUT WE'RE TELLING YOU IT'S MEANINGFUL"

     

    Get bent.

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    I fucking love train fights.

     

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    The latest CinemaSins video has just reminded me of my all time most hated cliche: simple misunderstandings.

     

    These things do not happen in real life, they are painful to watch and no one likes them.

    If the entire conflict of your story could be sorted out with a 5 minute conversation that conveniently never happens, then it's shitty writing.

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    I hate the 2nd act break ups in romantic comedys if that counts

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    I can't help but love alien species using broken English.

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    When supposedly smart characters do stupid things.

     

    Not when stupid characters do stupid things; that's part of their character. Like, Luffy being an idiot or Goku being an idiot is fine since they're, you know, idiots.

     

    I'm talking when a character should do something intelligent, and they have the mental capacity to do so, but they don't because that would resolve the plot too easily.

     

    Related, and similar to Ted's example, is a character's refusal to share information. If a characters knows crucial information that could solve a crisis but refuses to tell anyone about it (or at least refuses to tell a person who should be told), that drive me up the wall. Madoka had this issue, Bravely Default had this issue, and countless others I can't think off at the top of my head.

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