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I think we can all agree on the "lier reveal" cliche being probably one of the most hated ones out there, a lot of kids movies still love to put this shitty cliche into it. If you're gonna do this, just keep it short and sweet instead of wasting 30 minutes of characters moping and doping about like a bunch of babies.

 

Yeeeaaah, I watched too much of Doug Walker's Disneycember and Dreamworks-uary.

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When supposedly smart characters do stupid things.

 

Not when stupid characters do stupid things; that's part of their character. Like, Luffy being an idiot or Goku being an idiot is fine since they're, you know, idiots.

 

I'm talking when a character should do something intelligent, and they have the mental capacity to do so, but they don't because that would resolve the plot too easily.

 

Related, and similar to Ted's example, is a character's refusal to share information. If a characters knows crucial information that could solve a crisis but refuses to tell anyone about it (or at least refuses to tell a person who should be told), that drive me up the wall. Madoka had this issue, Bravely Default had this issue, and countless others I can't think off at the top of my head.

 

It depends on what kind of intelligence that character has. While a smart character doing poorly in an area they've demonstrated expertise in is horribly out-of-character, one that reveals their weaknesses is more believable. The ditzy genius trope is all about characters that are over-all book smart, but naive or lacking in common sense: having a PhD in Bioengineering doesn't guarantee someone will know how to talk their way out of a sticky situation. Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory is a good example, having built a futuristic secret lab all by himself, but is completely oblivious to living life as an average kid. 

 

I definitely agree with you on the second point. In the case of Madoka Magica, Homura actually did try to tell the other magical girls the reality of their situation in past timelines, except they didn't have the experience to fully understand what she was talking about, thus they ignored her warnings and fell into the same pitfalls over and over. As a result, Homura stopped bothering trying to tell the other girls and instead attempted to manipulate them into protecting Madoka from becoming a magical girl. The only other character I know that withheld information was Kyubey, whom as we all know was doing this deliberately... cute little bastard. 

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I definitely agree with you on the second point. In the case of Madoka Magica, Homura actually did try to tell the other magical girls the reality of their situation in past timelines, except they didn't have the experience to fully understand what she was talking about, thus they ignored her warnings and fell into the same pitfalls over and over. As a result, Homura stopped bothering trying to tell the other girls and instead attempted to manipulate them into protecting Madoka from becoming a magical girl. The only other character I know that withheld information was Kyubey, whom as we all know was doing this deliberately... cute little bastard. 

 

 

I get that that's what they were going for, but I feel like that point could have been executed better.  How hard is it to convince someone to believe you about the future when they know you can manipulate time?  I mean I love PMMM but still.

 

On topic, I love when there's an antagonist with an extreme/fully realized version of an ideal/goals of the protagonist, rather than an exact opposite.  Fight Club and Up were great examples of this.

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Something I love:

[trying to stop character from doing a thing] "Character name, no!"

[doing the thing with great gusto] "CHARACTER NAME, YES!"

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Joke boss fights in video games, as in boss fights that end immediately as they start have always been a pet peeve of mine, unless they're cut off or defeated quickly by a stronger boss who hasn't been established until then. Even more annoying is when a joke boss hints at returning later only to be killed by another character in a later sequence before a second encounter.

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I'm so tired of the "character pushes another out of the way of a speeding vehicle only to get hit themselves" trope. What, you can't just pull them back and spare the both of you? Jeez.

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The Pope

Well, if it's the heat of the moment, your instincts might just be to shove out of the way rather than pull.

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A similar trope that never makes sense, however, is when someone's chased by an object rolling down a slope, but don't think to run to the side despite there's plenty of space. Ie. most every runaway snowball scene. It works in comedy flicks, though.

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Yeah, in terms of momentum it's a lot easier to keep moving forward than to slow down, stop and reverse.

 

In that case, why not keep that momentum and continue moving out of the way of the car together instead of just stopping dead (no pun intended) in front of it?

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Can't whoever did the pushing at least run forward, then? Usually when this happens, they have enough time to, they just don't for some reason, instead staring at the oncoming doom.

 

Just- there have to be ways to avoid this.

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Something I love:

[trying to stop character from doing a thing] "Character name, no!"

[doing the thing with great gusto] "CHARACTER NAME, YES!"

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A similar trope that never makes sense, however, is when someone's chased by an object rolling down a slope, but don't think to run to the side despite there's plenty of space. Ie. most every runaway snowball scene. It works in comedy flicks, though.

It would be funny if they actually step aside and the boulder starts chasing them in that direction.

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A similar trope that never makes sense, however, is when someone's chased by an object rolling down a slope, but don't think to run to the side despite there's plenty of space. Ie. most every runaway snowball scene. It works in comedy flicks, though.

 

CinemaSins refers to this as going to the Prometheus School Of Running Away From Things.

 

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DUDE that big rock thing is also shielding them from the lava plumes; maybe it's not so pointless after all?

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The Pope

Not to mention it looks so big that running to the side would probably still end up with you getting crushed (since running to the side and not straight forward just gives the thing ample time to catch up).

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Not to mention it looks so big that running to the side would probably still end up with you getting crushed (since running to the side and not straight forward just gives the thing ample time to catch up).

 

I haven't seen the film myself, but judging from that gif, I'd say they have a solid chance of escaping, whether they run straight to the sides or diagonally.

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The Pope

Oh.

 

Well, I haven't seen the movie; I was just judging by what it looked like.

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Even as a kid I thought it was really weird how some cartoon characters would close their eyes while they walked or talked.  I even tried it once as a kid and it felt just as dumb as it looked.

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In anime it's kinda the opposite, I find; people hardly ever blink, only when moving a bit.

 

Anyway, cartoons using live-action stock footage will never get old for me.

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I enjoy it when someone makes a comment that isn't funny or relevant at the start and then a while later it's referenced again in some really bizarre way. Brick jokes never get old.

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The cliché that may just bother me more than anything else is when a character is in a jail cell, and the bars are extremely far apart, and they could easily escape, but they don't.

 

subterranean sonic, donkey kong 64 etc etc

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