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Gonna say it... I actually loved Punisher: War Zone a lot more that the Thomas Jane Punisher; even though that one was pretty good.

I have yet to see the series though.

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I've tried multiple times to get into JJBA, but I just couldn't do it. Maybe the manga is better, but aside from a few moments in the first episode of Stardust Crusader, the animation is just so stiff and lifeless. Phantom Blood was okay and I like Dio but was rather bland otherwise, Battle Tendency tremendously suffered from "Tell, don't show" with its animation, it had a tendency to explain what's happening rather than just depicting it (Also Joseph got annoying after a while). Stardust Crusaders almost had me and the animation improved but it lost me since the plot was pretty much just stand user of the week with little character development. I'm gonna try Part 4 since everyone says it's the best, but if that doesn't work I'm not going to bother anymore. I don't hate it, each series has enjoyable moments, and it handles comedy and crazy over the top "did they really just do that?!" moments great but... It's just not living up to the hype and people treat the new adaptations like the pariah of modern anime even though I've seen way better shows. 

 

And another thing, the JJBA adaptation, plus a lot of stuff by Kyoto Animation (Free! is the biggest offender), suffer from "pretty art, stiff animation" syndrome. They focus too hard on making every frame look pretty and on model that the way they make them move is really rigid and lacks character.

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On 12.1.2018 at 11:16 PM, TVBForever said:

Gonna say it... I actually loved Punisher: War Zone a lot more that the Thomas Jane Punisher; even though that one was pretty good.

I have yet to see the series though.

You know what? I feel exactly the same way.

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truteal

94% of stuff Hanna-Barbera made was crap

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3 minutes ago, truteal said:

94% of stuff Hanna-Barbera made was crap

What was the other 6%?

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I actually liked the Saw franchise, as laughable as the sequels are.

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truteal
8 hours ago, GamingFan1997 said:

What was the other 6%?

2 Stupid Dogs, Fish Police and Cow and Chicken/I Am Weasel (and maybe some others, but most of Hanna-Barbera's work is mediocre at best)

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It's no secret Hanna Barbera made cartoons on the cheap and considered themselves a business before an actual entertainment industry a la Warner Bros. and Looney Tunes.

It's true that they created a lot of household names (Flinstones, Jetsons, Yogi, Jonny Quest, Josie and the Pussycats, Scooby Doo, etc.) but watch any of them today and not only are they painfully unfunny (with laugh tracks, why would you put a laugh track in a cartoon you hacks), but their animation budget is always cutting corners, not just with repeating backdrops but also with how they animated heads vs bodies. MovieBob did a pretty good breakdown of it a little while back.

 

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What about Tom and Jerry? That was created by Hanna Barbera as well.

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Tom and Jerry were theatrical shorts, so they had real animation. It's the TV animation that was ultra cheap.

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Here's one for the film buffs: I don't care for The Searchers. There are some really good scenes, and it's admirably complex for a 1950s Western, but more in theory than practice. The story as a whole is too disjointed, there's way too much comic relief in the middle that really doesn't fit in, and it's hard to care what happens to the lead, even if he's supposed to be an anti-hero (and that's debatable). I also don't care for John Wayne's performance in it.

I do love The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, though. That one deserves all the respect that people heap on The Searchers.

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truteal
10 hours ago, GamingFan1997 said:

What about Tom and Jerry? That was created by Hanna Barbera as well.

Doesn't count (they were made by MGM, not Hanna-Barbera Studios)

H-B's animation wasn't my problem with their post-50s/pre-late 80s shows (like Scooby-Doo and its assorted spinoffs/ripoffs) it was the writing that made them terrible

Villainous is feh and the only reason why many people like it is because it's different than CN's modern day crop of shows (it feels like Deviantart: the animated series)

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MemeKirisame

Gene Ditch's era for T&J seems surrealistically good to me for the reverbing sounds.

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Tron Legacy is my favorite movie 

I hate The Walking Dead TV show. People argue and zombies show up. Game of Thrones is also overrated

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truteal
1 hour ago, MemeKirisame said:

Gene Ditch's era for T&J seems surrealistically good to me for the reverbing sounds.

It had its charm (the animation reminded me of Animafilm)

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On 3/8/2018 at 9:19 PM, MemeKirisame said:

Gene Ditch's era for T&J seems surrealistically good to me for the reverbing sounds.

The ultimate in hipster opinions: Gene Deitch's Tom and Jerry shorts are about as good as the Hanna-Barbera-led ones. It's just that people expect smoothly animated violence over UPA-style minimalism from a Tom and Jerry short - I like how he tried to approach the shorts' formula from an entirely different angle.

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Speaking of Tom and Jerry, I have never, ever liked Tom and Jerry. Mainly because we're supposed to find Jerry all cute and adorable and ububububu and I detest his guts. I've brought it up from time to time over the years, but yeah, fuck Jerry, and fuck Tom and Jerry by extension.

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I'm not big on it either, but not for that reason.  It's hard to say exactly; I just always preferred its Looney Tunes counterparts like Roadrunner or Sylvester and Tweety personally.

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Honestly in general old-timey cartoons do very little for me. My flavor of cartoon will forever be Seasons 2-3 of SpongeBob. As lauded as "Duck Season, Rabbit Season" is as a bit, and rightfully so, for me the "Wumbo" bit is one of the greatest comedy routines of all time.

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I like Kirby:Right Back at Ya (and I'm talking about the 4kids dub, not the Japanese version) and I don't mean that I like it ironically or that it's just good, I mean that I actually really like it. It's funny, it's entertaining, the characters are great, etc. The show does have a few episodes that aren't the best like every TV show but other then that, it's a great show.

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