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Ah yes, it's time for another YouChew tradition, where we make a thread about a system that still has a codename, discuss the rumors and the thread inevitably takes off when more details are discussed and becomes the place to discuss the system when it's out and post friend IDs and all that. Isn't that amazing? We have a good history of that...it's fascinating to look at the 3DS, Wii U, Xbox One and PS4 threads, to see how it evolved over time from rumors, to announcement, to present. Benefit of being a forum that remembers everything, eh? Can't wait to see what this thread will look like!

I know there's not a ton to discuss right now...oh hell, that's a lie! The Wii U is a failure by a large margin, so it's neat to think of what Nintendo will do next. Will the rumors of it being a hybrid system be true (handheld and home console, to finally combine their two separate arms and play to all of their strengths)? Does it truly have 'industry leading' chips? Will these chips make it more powerful than the Bone/PS4 or will it surpass them? Is Nintendo too late? When will it release...2016 (4 years) or 2017 (5)? Announcement at E3, you think? What about Nintendo's mobile strategy?

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I kind of think this one will be gimmick-free. Everyone turns off the 3DS's 3D, it has a model revision without the effect, plus people were confused or not interested in the GamePad.

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I think people should quit making assumptions with absolute assurance about the system, when we know absolutely nothing about it besides the fact that it's a dedicated console. Nintendo could be hiding pretty much anything under their sleeve at this point.

That's not to say we shouldn't speculate, though.

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The only thing I can safely assume about the thing is that it will... probably be talked about at E3 next year, and maybe released in 2017 at earliest.

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The only thing I worry about is that it will be yet another underpowered system when compared to the competition. I understand Nintendo's philosophy of gameplay > graphics and such, but the fact is, if the console isn't powerful enough, nobody is going to want to develop and release games on it and it shows, with how little support there is on the Wii U from third-party developers. The huge success of the Wii was a complete fluke, IMO; they couldn't rely on the casual crowd anymore with Wii U (even though they tried at first) and they couldn't convince anyone outside of hardcore Nintendo fans to buy it. I think if Nintendo wishes to succeed with the NX, they need to make it more powerful than the Xbone and PS4, they can't just be on the same level of power. 

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I don't want another under powered console with a shitty gimmick either. I hope Nintendo's new president starts cracking the whip and chopping off heads over there.

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But will the third parties come back to Nintendo? Not likely, not with the policies and online infrastructure in place right now.

Nintendo doesn't 'need' third parties to 'succeed'...but if they want mainstream dominance again, you better bet they have to have them.

The mobile/home combo thing is a surefire bet. Maybe like the Wii U gamepad but sold as an optional unit for backwards compatibility? If the graphics are going to be 'top of the line' like the rumors suggest, then the portable device would have to be some kind of streaming hardware like the Wii U gamepad, but able to tether to WiFi or Bluetooth through your phone, or something, I dunno what they're planning. Sure, they could add lesser hardware into the portable unit and have it run a lesser version of the game, but nobody wants that.

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Their best bet is honestly just making the new console as backwards compatible as possible and drop the gimmicks. If what I've read is true, the Wii U is based off of Wii hardware, and of course the Wii is just a Gamecube, so the support is still there. People have even hacked the Wii U to run Gamecube games and they supposedly run almost perfectly. And with the Gamecube controller adapter, you can have a way to use the controllers without the need for ports on the console. So basing the NX off of the Wii U hardware could allow for the best backwards compatibility we've ever seen. By allowing you to play Wii U games on the NX, people who adopted the system can still take all of their games, even their Gamepad, over to the NX. This ensures that Wii U games also will have a reasonable lifespan, like Splatoon.

That's just what I feel would be best. Probably nowhere near how it actually works though, as I imagine having Gamepad support might be an issue with memory.

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Based on their comments about the NX being both an actual physical console as well as "a Wii U, mobile and 3DS-compatible platform", I can kinda expect it to be something like the nVidia Shield or what have you. An Android-based OS sounds very much like a possibility, with maybe some proprietary hardware that provides backwards compatibility with Wii and Wii U software. CPUs have gone a loooong way since the Wii U came out in 2012; the sole fact that my current phone has an 8-core CPU and 3GB of RAM is still absolutely mindblowing to me.

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 People have even hacked the Wii U to run Gamecube games and they supposedly run almost perfectly.

So the reason why this works the way it does is because the Wii U is literally a beefy Wii/GameCube. It's still on PowerPC architecture, albeit heavily modified. If they wanted to compete with the big boys/have games easily portable, they'd have to drop it and go with x64/x86. This would ruin compatibility....buuuuut, you could have hardware abstraction (the 360 was also on PowerPC and it runs 'emulated' through the Xbox One in a way similar to this, though this was a miraculous, expensive and extremely difficult software engineering feat. something I very much doubt Nintendo would do even if it meant keeping literally a decade's or more worth of backwards compatibility).

I don't think backwards compatibility will be kept. It would be great, to keep a majority of Nintendo's library (virtual console and up) always available and on one system, but it's just not realistic. The PPC architecture is very outdated and does not bode well for optimization of major graphics engines (see: any last gen third party port that runs worse on the Wii U despite having technically better specs than either the 360 or PS3).

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I don't feel like I need BC anymore anyway. My Wii and Wii U aren't going anywhere, they'll still be around when the next thing comes out.

Nintendo has had the best track record out of any console manufacturer when it comes to BC, though, so maybe they'll try. Who knows.

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So I guess the Wii U will be to the NX what the Gamecube was to the Wii?

People were confused or not interested in the GamePad.

I think the Wii U Gamepad is the best controller of any console after the Xbox 360's.

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Well,  they  Might be able to create another thing maybe Im guessing Late 2016 early 2017. There are a very smart people to make these awesome systems.

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I think we can all agree on what contributed to Wii U's subpar performance. Poor marketing, not very many highly anticipated launch titles, and very little third party support. Nothing wrong with having something that sets you apart from the competition, but I think the fact the WiiU wasn't as powerful as the Bone and PS4, hurt it greatly in the multiplat area; its online infrastructure hasn't helped matters either. Its name and Ad campaigns confused the casual market that dominated the Wii's audience on whether this was an addon, upgrade, or and entirely new console, so the biggest crowd that was drawn in were gamers, primarily hardcore Nintendo fans, and even that market had some holdouts because of the lackluster launch window.

It's too early to speculate and make assumptions, but I'm hoping Nintendo can learn from some of these mistakes and turn things around with the NX. With what little we know about the project, I don't expect it to be out earlier than 2017.  Maybe Holiday 2016 if we're REALLY lucky. 

I'm interested in seeing if anyone will create any elaborate April Fools jokes to fuel speculation.  Anyone remember the NintendoOn video back when the Wii was still going by its "Revolution" code name?

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I get the feeling that is going to be a VR device, Nintendo has experience in VR, they know what not to do.

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I assume they're gonna have a bundle with the Nintendo NX.

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Would the NX be also compatible with the Wii games?

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Well since Wii was created by Nintendo, yes.

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