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Mario Odyssey is taking over my life. I can't stop playing it because I need them power moons.help

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I haven't played Breath of the Wild yet and so far I've avoided spoilers,  but is there any major benefit to buying the DLC before doing a first playthrough or is it better to play vanilla and do the DLC during the postgame?

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DLC you won't be able to use much after an initial playthrough, by that point you'll probably have already upgraded your armor past any of the DLC armor (which you can't upgrade), and the few non-armor DLC items are nifty on an initial playthrough whereas post-game you won't really have much to do. That being said, the game isn't pay-to-win, and the DLC doesn't change much to begin with so if you don't want it, I wouldn't get it at all, but otherwise, it's probably best to get pre-game.

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If you do want the DLC, I'd say do all the DLC you can in your playthrough. None of it has any worth postgame.

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...so is it really fall 2018 or just whenever? Kind of confused.

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Nobody fuckin' knows at this point

Nintendo is being predictably unpredictable and keeping everyone in the dark about it.

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Yeah figures lol. Typical Nindildo. 

Guess we'll find out when we find out.

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Nintendo has a headache. They're too tired to fuck their online playerbase raw.

Forget playing NES online. I just want some Virtual Console titles

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Yeah, seriously. I was trying to explain to my cousins why we couldn't play Smash 64 on my brand spanking new Switch when we could do so on the 10-year old Wii, and I simply couldn't come up with an acceptable answer. The fact that there are four Smash games and I can't play a single one on the Switch is simply repugnant. I don't care if they start with NES backwards compatibility or Wii U backwards compatibility, but these clowns need to get their shit in line.

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What kills me is that this is the perfect system to put up the Virtual Console. It's a portable. It'll be the first time we can officially, legally play a whole bunch of old Nintendo console games on a handheld. That's a big deal, or at least, it should be, but so far Nintendo has shown no indication that they even give a shit.

I can understand not having Wii U compatibility due to controller issues. And maybe the system isn't powerful enough to suitably emulate Wii and GC games, (and they would also face similar controller issues). But there's no excuse for anything N64 and below. What's the hold up? I really don't get it.

It can't be just to sell more NES and SNES classics, or they would have produced more than 10 each.

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Honestly, pretty much every Wii U game made past 2014 had little to no Gamepad functionality outside of what could be done with the Switch's touch screen, and those that actually did are considered to be the trash games and no one would miss them.

And yeah, the fact that in the history of the Wii, Wii U and 3DS Gamecube games have never been available (but Wii games have, what the actual fuck), Nintendo seriously needs to rectify this shit.

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To be fair, as of this post it still hasn't even been a full year since the release of the Switch.  I was under the impression they wanted to put more emphasis on the system itself, new software, and third-party relations during its launch year to boost sales, and that has definitely worked out for them.  Now that the holidays are over, the waters have been tested, and they know how much of a success the Switch has become, they have more than enough incentive to invest time and money on a Virtual Console for the Switch, as well as other anticipated features like a web browser and such.

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16 minutes ago, The Pope said:

And yeah, the fact that in the history of the Wii, Wii U and 3DS Gamecube games have never been available (but Wii games have, what the actual fuck), Nintendo seriously needs to rectify this shit.

Still, there's zero chance that the Switch could emulate Wii U, so what we've been seeing on that front are Deluxe ports. That's fair enough.

As for why Wii U had Wii games on the eShop but not GC, there's a simple reason. Wii U natively supports Wii, so these were just game downloads running on the native Wii hardware. Wiimotes were still in regular production and widely available.

GameCube downloads would have required one of two things. Either, mass produce more GC controllers and adapters, or, adapt the games so that they could be compatible with regular controllers. Both of those things would have required more money or effort on Nintendo's part, so you see why it didn't happen.

4 minutes ago, HotFriedSkadoosh said:

To be fair, as of this post it still hasn't even been a full year since the release of the Switch.  I was under the impression they wanted to put more emphasis on the system itself, new software, and third-party relations during its launch year to boost sales, and that has definitely worked out for them.  Now that the holidays are over, the waters have been tested, and they know how much of a success the Switch has become, they have more than enough incentive to invest time and money on a Virtual Console for the Switch, as well as other anticipated features like a web browser and such.

I suppose you could say that, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think it was downright strange how silent they're being about it. We just want to know that retro games are coming beyond, like, a few NES games with online leaderboards. It doesn't need to happen right now, we just want to know whether it is happening at all. I could hope for more info in the supposed January direct, but I feel like I've been saying that since January last year.

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Yeah, seriously. I get them being a little nervous due to the Wii U bombing, but now that the Switch is a bona fide success, they have no excuse.

And while the trickle of 10 or so NES games a week back in the Wii's day was cute, that simply will not fly.

Oh, and in terms of Gamecube games, the Switch's controller (and Wii U controller for the matter) has all of the buttons necessary. I believe I've said this before, but if Nintendo wants to make a lot of money (and I mean, a lot of money, make a Pro Controller model where the button layout is identical to the GameCube controller, but with a ZL tacked onto the left side. Works with every single Switch game, GameCube game, and now when the new Smash comes out you can give all the old-school hounds their GameCube controller fix.

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GameCube had analog triggers. It didn't matter for most games, but some games can't really work without them short of a control scheme overhaul.

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Dunno what third party GC games would be affected by the lack of analog triggers, but Mario Sunshine certainly made use of them. I imagine it wouldn't be hard to tweak the controls so you still have the option of either running while shooting or stopping to aim, but considering how much replacing an analog stick with a d-pad messed with players in Mario 64 DS, Nintendo would still probably want to make sure at least their first party hits have translated control schemes that both work well and feel right to older players before they try porting any of them.

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Sunshine is the one game where I can't think of any good solution. I guess it could work if they make one button spray in place and another to spray while moving, but that's not accounting for the little subtle things you could do.

Also, they could legitimately remove the "spray in place" mechanic at no detriment to the game, it's almost literally useless when you can press Y to go into over the shoulder camera and then spray in place that way. Just as fast, but way more accurate. They wouldn't actually do that, though.

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