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The next console will make any controller of any kind compatible with it. That's right, any controller. You're sony TV remote controller? It'll use that too despite possible copyright laws. It'll incorporate ALL THE BUTTONS, because Nintendo knows you like buttons!

And the game pad that comes with the system will be a gigantic four screen gizmo that lets you do four things at once.

Nintendo will get rid of online play in support of their new teleporter add on, which allows you to teleport directly to the other player's house.

 

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That makes me wonder how the controller is gonna be, it would be cool if it was compatible with other controllers (Wiimote, GC controller, Wii U tablet).

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I would like to think they wouldn't ditch all the controllers up to now. I have a feeling they'd stick with the same button system they have going now. I mean, the PS and XBOX controllers have barely changed over the years...When you find something that works just stick with it.

Unless they make one where we control everything with our MIND...I'd accept that!

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SNES backwards compatibility confirmed 

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2 hours ago, appdirect said:

According to this patent, it's possible that the NX won't feature a disc drive and would rely on internal storage and game cards for the games:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1099932

For someone in my position, that's not good.

Unless Nintendo announces a way to transfer Wii U Game Discs to Digital Download form, and perform a system transfer to the NX, that means it will be impossible to play any Wii U game you've bought at retail on the NX, giving any chance at backwards compatibility a swift kick in the balls.

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Nintendo said they would still support the Wii U after the release of the NX, I think the Wii U would become a budget gaming system for people who want a cheap console.

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So probably kinda like how Sony supported the PS3 for a while even though the PS4 had been released? I guess that's okay.

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4 hours ago, 2xdinosaurs said:

So probably kinda like how Sony supported the PS3 for a while even though the PS4 had been released? I guess that's okay.

Ew, no. Fuck that. I don't want next-gen to previous-gen backport bullshit.

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In all fairness, the PS2 lasted quite some time after the PS3 launched that it managed to still get a couple of ports from seventh-gen games. In fact, it managed to last long enough until the PS4 was released before it was officially discontinued. The PS3 could be going down the same path, but it likely won't last as long as the PS2 did before getting discontinued. It's just that some developers are still trying to stick to the last generation of consoles like Activision because there is still somehow an audience for their games on these consoles as for some reason they haven't moved onto either the Xbone or PS4.

But all that aside, I don't see Nintendo doing that at all with the NX. Very few games got released on both the Gamecube and Wii, and the same goes for games released on both the Wii and the Wii U. I doubt they'll release games on the NX and port them to the Wii U at the same time given how they little they've done backporting with past consoles.

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I just hope to still get plenty of enjoyment out of my Wii U before I gotta shell out for the next console.

I just got my Wii U last year with the release of Smash 4. :/

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That controller looks more like somebody emulating PSX on a smartphone than an actual controller for a professional gaming console.

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8 hours ago, appdirect said:

Can you copy and paste the contents from the article here, the site won't work for me.

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When Nintendo announced it was working on a new console, codenamed “NX,” the company hinted its new platform would blend the capabilities of a traditional home console with those of a mobile device. Now the company has filed a patent application that sheds some light on how it might accomplish that feat — and the device it describes is like nothing any vendor has shipped before.

The patent application (20150343306) describes a system in which a primary game console connects to a supplemental device to “to increase the speed or quality of a user’s gaming experience.” This has been read by some as a reference to the kinds of console upgrade hardware we’ve seen in the past, but a closer reading of the patent reveals something very different.

The basic structure of Nintendo’s proposed design

Nintendo’s hypothetical console can connect to multiple supplemental devices, measure their latency and performance characteristics, and assign appropriate workloads, all with the goal of improving primary console performance. These supplemental devices are shown as being wired directly to the primary console, as below, but the actual patent text makes it clear that supplemental devices could also connect via Wi-Fi or Bluetooth.

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The same architecture, scaling out across either a local or remote network.

The patent then describes how end-users might configure their own hardware and make it available for this distributed rendering during specific times of day or night, and contemplates a method of rewarding players who choose to share their hardware in this fashion with game time, credits, or other materials.

Cluster-based console gaming?

The system Nintendo describes in its patent application sounds more like a compute cluster than a traditional platform. Game streaming is still in its infancy, but virtually every major player has something in the works. The Wii U arguably pioneered local game streaming, though the feature didn’t drive sales the way motion controllers drove the original Wii. Today, Sony and Nvidia have PlayStation Now and GeForce Now, the PlayStation Vita can stream at least some PS4 titles, and the Xbox One can stream games to any Windows 10 PC running on a compatible network. Microsoft also has a cloud computing backend available for additional processing, though I’m not aware of any shipping titles that currently use the feature.

The common enemy of all these capabilities is latency. Even in cases where Microsoft and Sony don’t technically limit users to local networks, cross-town network streams from a PS4 or Xbox One at home to a more distant location haven’t tested well.

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The system can identify local devices with free resources and choose which to use.

When the Wii U shipped, reviewers noted that the console’s unique controller also limited its overall performance. While the console could technically support more than one controller (albeit at a performance hit), in practice, Nintendo assumed a single Wii U gamepad. The “supplemental” devices that Nintendo’s patent contemplates don’t sap the performance of the console — they improve it.

This patent doesn’t clarify what kinds of scenarios Nintendo believes would be suitable for offloading to supplemental devices, the hardware involved in doing so, or how the company would compensate for the still-significant latency hit of performing calculations remotely. Presumably there would be a way for developers to specify which tasks could be farmed out to supplemental devices, while core gameplay ran natively. It’s also not clear if Nintendo envisions a system in which end-users purchase multiple devices simultaneously, or how much that hardware would cost. Consumers are used to buying consoles as a distinct unit, so selling them on the idea of supplemental hardware could be tricky.

On the other hand, clustering hardware together could offer an interesting way for gamers to invest more money in exchange for better overall performance. Both the Xbox One and PS4 have often struggled to maintain frame rates (the Xbox One has a larger overall problem, but neither console is guaranteed to be lag-free). I don’t know how many Sony or Microsoft fans would pay an additional premium to alleviate these issues and guarantee a smooth 30-60 FPS at 1080p, but we bet some would. Whether Nintendo can launch and ramp such an approach is open to debate — network-related features and online gaming are far from the company’s traditional strengths.

Nintendo has already said it expects to announce the NX console’s release date at next year’s E3, and that the new system will be a complete break from the Wii’s architecture. This last can’t come quickly enough — while the Wii’s GPU technology has evolved significantly since the late 1990s, the CPU inside the Wii U dates back to the PowerPC 750CL CPU, which first debuted in 2000 and powered the GameCube. So far, we don’t know who is building the NX’s hardware or what CPU architecture it will use. AMD has been floated as the vendor, but Nintendo could have opted for an ARM CPU as opposed to an x86 chip.

 

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