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This topic may split some hairs with internet "reviewers," but I think this topic should be reserved for the sharing and discussion of much more thorough, long-form, critically-minded content. YouTube seems to be going through a renaissance of such content nowadays. Stuff like this:

 

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The Pope

You should all be watching "The Whole Plate". It's fantastic.

 

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The latter one I got to watch during my film studies class today. It was educational as well as entertaining.

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I dunno how much this'll relate to the topic but this guy's pretty good 

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11 hours ago, The Pope said:

You should all be watching "The Whole Plate". It's fantastic.

 

Lindsay Ellis...no thank you, but no.

OT:

 

 

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The Pope
43 minutes ago, Judau said:

Lindsay Ellis...no thank you, but no.

:o

What do you have against Lindsay? She's fantastic.

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11 hours ago, TheOneManBoxOffice said:

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I ought to watch more of Kyle Kallgren's stuff, I really liked his short survey of Spider-Man and spider lore for the wide web of ideas it was. Pun intended.

 

 

8 hours ago, Judau said:

Lindsay Ellis...no thank you, but no.

OT:

 

 

I have to echo Pope—why the dislike for Lindsay? I can understand if her humor isn't for everyone but what I like most about her videos is how serious and thorough her research is. It shines extremely so in her video on The Hunchback of Notre Dame and in her Loose Canon videos.

That Treasure Planet video is incredible, though, I was too young to realize how much the marketing got fucked when it was released. I remember cherishing my VHS of it, though, and I watched it earlier this year and still adored it (except for B.E.N. which, yeah, is a movie's worth of comic relief crammed into its final half hour).

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I don't know if I even saw Treasure Planet growing up, but from what I've seen, it looks like a pretty cool movie. I especially think I'd dig the relationship between Jim and John Silver.

Sometime around late college I went back and watched a bunch of the Disney Renaissance films for the first time in years, and while I enjoyed Aladdin and Lion King, I was stunned by how much I loved Beauty and the Beast and especially Hunchback. I think Beauty and the Beast is objectively superior, but I had completely written Hunchback off and I never realized just how dark it was. Lindsay would probably take umbrage to this statement, but I do think the movie is great...except the Gargoyles. But I do agree that I'm okay with the lighter stuff that feels organic, but the third act Looney Tunes shit has got to go. Disney keeps remaking all these movies in live action that are already pretty much perfect, and it's like, why not do one that's flawed but still great? I know Lindsay has problems with the stage musical (I haven't seen it, but I can agree that swapping Clopin as the narrator for a generic Greek choir is a pretty doofy move), but I think there's a happy middle ground that'd make an utterly amazing movie. Here's to hoping.

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8 hours ago, The Pope said:

:o

What do you have against Lindsay? She's fantastic.

 

42 minutes ago, SharkhamAsylum said:

I have to echo Pope—why the dislike for Lindsay? 

I'm personally indifferent to Lindsay (and I think Metokur's a scumbag) but these videos happened recently:

 

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I can't watch those clips right now because I'm at work but I'm not sure how willing I am to take in good faith the videos of a man claiming to be "redpilling the internet" while peppering his channel thumbnails with Pepe and throwing around terms like "tumblrina" unironically. It reads as a run-of-the-mill alt-right channel where the host is a "snarky" documentarian of cringe culture and apparently skepticism vis-a-vis mass shootings

edit: I watched the first thirty seconds of the clip from the first video and it seems to be that he's just complaining that she's a spooky scary socialist now, engaging in more advanced analysis and critical theory than she did as the Nostalgia Chick. His tone is burdened with so much forced "snark" that it comes off as just plain mean-spirited. He strikes me as misanthropic and antagonistic, and seems like a man I would come to despise if I gave him any more time out of my life.

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23 minutes ago, SharkhamAsylum said:

I can't watch those clips right now because I'm at work but I'm not sure how willing I am to take in good faith the videos of a man claiming to be "redpilling the internet" while peppering his channel thumbnails with Pepe and throwing around terms like "tumblrina" unironically.

Jesus I wasn't aware of this. I don't see these particular examples, but I'm finding plenty of... not great stuff.

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What really fucking gets my goat, as a media scholar myself, is his total disregard for Lindsay's "The Whole Plate" series, and her work in general, without thinking more than two seconds about it.

People tend to be like "why is so much of film theory (or academia at large) so rooted in critical theory?" and the short answer is because politics are informed by culture which is informed by media which is informed by politics and so on, and to dive into media while thinking its apolitical is to put yourself on a very short leash. Gender theory, race theory, Marxist theory, symbiotic theory, etc. aren't so much theories in and of themselves but merely framing devices for analysis, a starting point for what you're looking to analyze about a film, because any given film has infinite ways to be read and received. (There are of course purely aesthetic analyses, but even studies of aesthetic techniques can be made in service of a larger political point).

This is all the more enhanced by mass media, pop culture, and the mainstream, which reaches immense amounts of people and can impact culture like an asteroid. Raising your nose at, say, scholarly analysis of Transformers films, requires willful ignorance of the astoundingly simple fact that if a lot of people see a thing, then a lot of people are affected by that thing, and people are culture, so a thing that affects a lot of people can affect culture on a large scale, and those effects and what about the film causes them are worth examining in theory. So much of my media studies classes in the past few years have been not on obscure-ass art films that nobody has ever seen but on Blade Runner, National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, and Real Housewives of New York. There will absolutely always be a place, an encouraged place, for more niche studies but the most visible media will always have the most visible effects. There's a reason the government is pumping funds into blockbusters like Man of Steel and Independence Day: Resurgence to fund a pro-military message, because that's the shit people see.

There does exist pro-conservative theory but as you may be able to infer from the kneejerk reactions of Mr. Mertokur here, conservative media analysis is so rare because political conservatism seems inherently opposed to the leaps that analysis requires; they are fully unwilling to dive deeper into a piece or even entertain it at all. It goes into a larger refrain of "why are there so few conservative artists," "why are there so few conservative actors," "why are there so few conservatives in the humanities," because generally conservatives devalue and just don't give a shit about those things because they're off getting "real jobs" or whatever. Real jobs like making easy ridicule of people on the internet who have actually put a lot of work into learning more about film and film theory than this Mr. Mertokur ever will. I could seriously get into this at such long length but it's just shit I am so tired of seeing and I have developed absolutely zero patience for it

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I like to think that a post like this is actually coming from Freddy Krueger in sunglasses.

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I don't want to give Metokur any more credit, because again, I think the guy's a fucking idiot, but low-hanging-fruit or not, Lindsay's recent DUI isn't exactly a good look for her. I personally don't hold that against her, and obviously I can't assume that Judau does either or if he agrees with Metokur's videos; I'm just saying that there are people who don't like Lindsay, and as someone who doesn't follow her content, I don't know if there are many (if any at all) actually good reasons not to.

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1 minute ago, G ☆ said:

I don't want to give Metokur any more credit, because again, I think the guy's a fucking idiot, but low-hanging-fruit or not, Lindsay's recent DUI isn't exactly a good look for her. I personally don't hold that against her, and obviously I can't assume that Judau does either or if he agrees with Metokur's videos; I'm just saying that there are people who don't like Lindsay, and as someone who doesn't follow her content, I don't know if there are many (if any at all) actually good reasons not to.

I guess I'd like this thread to be fairly highbrow and I'd hope that when someone is asked "why do you not like this theorist/channel," whoever it is, it'd be for better reasons than "SJW boogeyman."

Although the DUI is news to me and I agree that it wouldn't be a good look for anyone.

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Yeah, I hadn't heard of a DUI.

And it's like...yeah, that sucks, but shit happens. There's worse things a person can do. As long as she's repentant, I won't hold it that highly against her. At least not enough to dislike her or her work.

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