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Sixtyforce
2 minutes ago, Whelt said:

There actually is a difference between public and private figures, and how they are defined legally. Whether or not Rosen qualifies as a public figure is another question. How far can you push an individual-targeted joke before it becomes bullying or harassment? 

But that aside, can you really not see the difference between making jokes in general vs. targeting a specific person? No one has the legal right to stop you from making offensive jokes, but that is not an invitation to say and do whatever you want free from consequences. 

No one is targeting anyone here, lmao. Who are the YTPers targeting? Jews? Rosen specifically? Both are invalid, a non-sequitorial joke isn't meant to be targeted at anyone or any group specifically. Me saying "Gas the jews" or making Rosen say "Gas the jews" or some equally overdone joke is the YTPer themselves saying it to the audience, as a spontaneous, non-sequitorial joke. And the fact that the joke (To a certain extent) is coming from the mouth of a jew might be half the joke to some. You have to have a severe disconnect with reality to not realise that again, comedy =/= harrasment/bullying and that Rosen isn't actually saying any of the shit being said in the videos. Might I remind you, that putting shit on an imaginary pedestal and thinking that [X thing] isn't to be joked about is giving it the power that you want it to not have. The only reason why you consider it harrasment is bc you're getting offended for a group of people who probably don't even care about a bloody joke and are attatching this sort of connotation to it that wasn't there to begin with. They see that you're getting offended over a joke and are only going to continue to use that against you and offend you more. This sorta reaction that I'm seeing from a lot of people and from Rosen himself is the exact reaction that some of these people are looking for. Lots of people are going to make an offensive joke for the sake of amusing themselves and other people who have a similar sense of humour and offend the easily offended. When it's something that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Joking is the exact opposite of sincere harrassment, even if it's at the expense of holocaust victims, it's also at the expense of people who genuinely think that shit, in a way that the person telling the joke and the people laughing at the joke can all point fingers and laugh at a statement like "Gas the jews" and say "This is dumb, glad (most) people don't actually think this way, lmao".

2 minutes ago, Sagan Blob said:

You know what, there's this: What if there's a video of you being naked and tortured and people make jokes out of you? Are you still consider this a joke?

Thanks.

K, first, where tf did that come from, that went from 0-100 real quick lmao. 2nd of all, even if that did happen, yeh it'd be fucking embarrassing, but the best you can do when you've gone through trauma is to laugh. If someone made a joke at my own expense in such a way, and told such a joke to me, the best thing I can do is to appreciate that people are trying to cheer me up through laughter. There's nothing you can do about the past, dwelling on the past, especially events that happened some 70 years ago, dwelling on them in [current year] is just a massive waste of time for everyone involved. Getting offended over a joke seems to be more in fashion than getting offended over the atrocity itself. The exact same thing happened with all the UK terror attacks months ago. Twitter staff and blue checkmarks were so much more up in arms about jokes made about the terror attacks than they were about the attacks themselves. If you're getting over offended over a joke, instead of the tragedy itself, you need your priorities sorted out.

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BandanaBoi

What the hell does this have to do with your least favorite memes. This isn't the Micheal Rosen thread. This is the least favourite memes thread

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Sixtyforce
2 minutes ago, BandanaBoi said:

What the hell does this have to do with your least favorite memes. This isn't the Micheal Rosen thread. This is the least favourite memes thread

Good question, lmao.

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Sagan Blob
2 minutes ago, BandanaBoi said:

What the hell does this have to do with your least favorite memes. This isn't the Micheal Rosen thread. This is the least favourite memes thread

Technically counts because nazi and holocaust memes are involved here.

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Sixtyforce
9 minutes ago, Whelt said:

Maybe this point would be more valid if not for the fact that the person in question specifically said he cares about the bloody joke

I'm referring to holocaust victims specifically. They probably wouldn't even care about the jokes had they still been alive. (I mean survivors who hadn't died from old age).

9 minutes ago, Whelt said:

"I want to say whatever I want without anyone calling me out on it".

No, it's "I want to be able to have creative and comedic freedom without having my name and reputation being slandered over something that doesn't even matter". Someone who says something genuinely horrible, actually being anti-semetic should be called out, yes. But if one is making a simple joke, when it's very clear that the person telling the joke doesn't mean the thigns that are being said, don't bother. It doesn't affect you, all it does is make you uncomfortable for a few seconds, you forget and move on. Comedy about 6 million of your people being killed should be the least of your worries when 6 million of your people were killed.

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Sixtyforce, I couldn't help but notice that your viewpoints & principles are fully summed up in three Rowan Atkinson quotes as compiled by celebritypersonalities.com

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Sixtyforce
Just now, Whelt said:

Can you really speak for people who are dead and that you've never met?

No, I can't and I'm not. Most people who get offended by jokes are people outside of the group of people that the joke is about, I'm just taking a shot in the dark by saying that it'd be a similar story with (some) holocaust survivors.

2 minutes ago, Whelt said:

I'm not forcing you to stop - I couldn't, even if I wanted to, but I'm not in the business of trying to make people do things. But you're trying to twist logic here and defend your jokes by claiming that nobody is actually getting offended. That is obviously not true. If you want to continue the theme of offensive humor, then fine, but you should at least admit that people are going to be offended and that it simply doesn't matter to you.

And I'm not forcing you to stop being offended, I have no intention to. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you just look like an idiot when you do get offended over something that's as innocuous as a joke. We're fully aware that people are going to get offended, that's half the point of the offensive joke. Half the message of the joke is "Anyone who takes this joke sincerely, you are being quite daft. Getting so worked up over something that doesn't affect you in any way shape or form". And when it's of an event that didn't affect them and happened decades ago, with no way of changing the past, it just comes across as silly when people get as riled up as they do over something that's a complete non-issue. The scale of priorities is just completely off. People getting offended by actual slurs is justified, that shit's fucked. But I say, even if no one got offended even by real slurs, let alone jokes, it's a win-win for everyone. The victim doesn't get offended and they move on with their life, unaffected and the attacker doesn't get the reaction they were looking for, making themselves look like the massive knob that they would look like regardless.

1 minute ago, Maestro Snail said:

Stickyforce, I couldn't help but notice that your viewpoints & principles are fully summed up in three Rowan Atkinson quotes as compiled by celebritypersonalities.com

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Yes, I agree fully with this man. I honestly couldn't have put it better myself.

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26 minutes ago, Sixtyforce said:

Getting so worked up over something that doesn't affect you in any way shape or form.

But in Rosen's case, being portrayd as nazi (even when that content is quite obviously doctored) does affect him both on a professional and personal level.

Really, now, seeing oneself put in the getup of oppressors who killed your family would affect the majority of people on a very deep, psychological plane. I have the ability to make jokes like that myself, yet I choose not to out of respect for the people involved and their health. My intentions would mean little to them.

Am I right to assume that you view 'experiencing offense' like something other people deliberately choose to? A reply to Whelt earlier seems to suggest it. But it very rarely is. in my case at least, whenever someone's expression upsets me - be it comedy, an opinion piece, whatever - I am not allowed a second of neutral clarity to decide, "hmm, how should I react to this?"; no, instead I immediately get angry, and if it's bad enough, yes, I may very well be offended, perhaps to the point where it shows physically too. Only after blowing off some steam can I inspect something objectively. If you cannot relate to this, then you might be kind of emotionally dull?

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People have different reactions to offensive jokes, so not everyone would just "be annoyed for a few seconds and then move on". I don't understand why you keep insisting this, Sixtyforce.

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DSYTP

Let's just move on.

OT: My least favorite memes is (insert thing) protrayed by SpongeBob. I know it's related to the thing you talking about, but the editing is FUCKING lazy, if not at all. 

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Matt0417

Speaking of SpongeBob, my least favorite meme is this crock of shit.

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thapoint09

Are people still doing that?

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1 hour ago, thapoint09 said:

Are people still doing that?

No, thank Jesus. But I wanted to bring it up since this is what the thread is about xd

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I remember a Police department using that meme to make fun of the people they deal with them.

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To seque from something that was brought up, Michael Rosen doesn’t do anything for me as a ytp source or meme or whatever.  I’m not sure how it got so popular.

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4 hours ago, TugCoat said:

To seque from something that was brought up, Michael Rosen doesn’t do anything for me as a ytp source or meme or whatever.  I’m not sure how it got so popular.

For sentence mixers it's more or less a gold mine.

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15 hours ago, DSYTP said:

Let's just move on.

OT: My least favorite memes is (insert thing) protrayed by SpongeBob. I know it's related to the thing you talking about, but the editing is FUCKING lazy, if not at all. 

I personally like the concept, but hate how it's almost always limited to SpongeBob exclusively.

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Don't forget the "I put Spongebob music on *insert video.*"

 

late comment on issue incoming

Also, while I do respect Rosen's wishes on the matter of Nazi portrayal (especially if he is personally affected) but I do worry if his non-pooper fanbase would mass report every Rosen YTP, regardless of whether it has any Nazi content. Look in the original Facebook post comments.

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