USA Today’s Careless Blow to the Outside Perception of Youtube Poop


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USA Today’s Careless Blow to the Outside Perception of YouTube Poop

by Anonymous

 

YouTube.  Most of us use it, most have issues with it.  But with no other video service legitimately rivaling it, it’s still looking like it’ll be around for a very long time, with little indication that we’ll see any dramatic improvements anytime soon.

USA Today writer Jefferson Graham brings up one very common and understandable issue with the site in his Talking Tech piece, “On YouTube, sexualized 'Frozen' and Nickelodeon cartoons aren't barred from kids”, published on December 6, 2017.

“We’ll spare you the details,” Graham says, not in the text of the article but in the accompanying video above it on the page.  “But take it from us; this is not stuff you want your kids to see.”  This “stuff” described in the article is what we know as YouTube Poop, very much of which is not appropriate for young children at all.  Unfortunately, while Graham seeks to “spare” his adult parent readers the details, the article’s framing of its subject matter fills in the blanks in quite an unflattering way.

Again, it’s somewhat understandable, and I’m not going to lose my head over some working parents with a lot on their plate and one older journalist not taking an active interest in finding the real truth about YouTube Poop.  But I personally feel it doesn’t take much intuition or mental effort to look at any popular Youtube Poop with streamlined humor and, well, get the joke.  Not everyone does—we still have soccer moms yelling at movie theater managers after mistakenly taking their toddlers to Sausage Party—but they are a small minority despite being enormously aggravating.

Though the article’s ultimate point is a good one, that parents or guardians of young children should be more wary of content even from a mainstream source like Youtube or TV or streaming services, the writer’s framing of comedic Youtube Poops is carelessly unflattering and, frankly, demonizing.  The article opens with:

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image caption: Though it’s good to hear YouTube is also making progress to increase its reviewing workforce, which is a welcome change.

Youtube Poop, as perceived by the Talking Tech writer, is bluntly the work of “those who wish to manipulate, mislead, harass or even harm” young viewers.  The article proceeds to put Youtube Poop in the spotlight with that preamble, pointing out their use of popular family friendly cartoons and characters.  Now, there are videos and channels completely geared to gaming the algorithm for views and profit using these icons.  Here’s an informative video on these:

The creation of these channels’ videos are often left to algorithmic programs, with no human involvement.  The same could be said for the system meant to enforce the site.

However, as anyone familiar with YTP knows, Youtube Poop was never intended for that purpose.  You don’t even have to be familiar:  Any Youtube Poop streamlined enough to be the least bit popular has the obvious intention to be funny the same way an explicit Robot Chicken, South Park or Mad Magazine or literally any crude parody online of a family property is intended to evoke laughs via shock value:

Watch in horror as explicit programs put edgy shock elements in its sketched with colorful characters and motifs of family appropriate entertainment!

How could they target our children this way? Any child left unsupervised watching Cartoon Network past 9 PM could be exposed to this deceptive content!

Yeah, these parodies don't necessarily even have to be good for the intent to be clear.  (Where's the mainstream news screed against Racist Mario, by the way?)

The article introduces its readers to Youtube Poop the way a PSA from the 80’s would introduce its viewers to alcoholic drinks. Obviously, neither alcohol nor Youtube Poop is appropriate for children. The problem here is, if the makers of Youtube Poop in this analog are the brewers, then Youtube is the purveyor who fails to ID their customers.  And YouTube, as the article acknowledges, does not run a tight ship.  If Youtube was a ship, it’d be like Noah’s Ark; full of every kind of wild animal in the world and overwhelmingly large enough that it’d take one of God’s chosen could manage it alone.

The USA Today writer is not concerned with the intention of (the majority of) the makers of Youtube Poop, but he should have the common sense to pick up while watching “[YTP] Caillou Loses His iPhone” or “Joker has trouble braking his c--- s--king habit” (as quoted in his article) that maybe these edits were made by some adolescent trying to be funny on his computer and not a predatory algorithm-gaming conglomerate.

But hey, he’s just a professional journalist working for a mainstream household news outlet....

Though only a few YTPs are mentioned by name (others are acknowledged in a blanket sense as “[videos using] Spongebob Squarepants or Peppa Pig”) this video is embedded in the article

Yes, Graham ultimately urges readers to accept that Youtube is not a secure place for parents to blindly let occupy their children, and this is right.  In the video, he suggests turning on the age filter, and using app services by PBS Kids, Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network as alternatives. It’s clear that the concern is over YouTube being a Wild West of content, and how people should be aware of that.

Makers of Youtube Poop could also stand to be more responsible, especially popular ones, by age restricting their own videos and putting content warnings in their channel and video descriptions.  Nonetheless, despite the silly name, Youtube Poop encompasses a wide variety of sources, styles, and even levels of appropriateness (I haven’t even talked about the many editors who aspire to make clean content like Trudermark and DaThings1).

It would have been highly favorable for the writer to not have carelessly lumped these works in with mass produced content made for underhanded clickbait schemes, or at least not namedropped them implying insidious intention where there is none.  There’s so much genuinely entertaining and tasteful content that falls under Youtube Poop, and I hate to think that it was all thrust into a bad light for so many USA Today readers for the sake of a point not related to it at all.

Real people, making things out of real creativity, don’t deserve to be maligned this way.

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Girla PurpleHeart

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I made a rant about YouTube on the News Thread, if you guys are interested of reading it, feel free to do so. But like I said, YouTube Poop has nothing to do with Elsagate and other clickbait videos. Sure, some of the YTP videos maybe inappropriate, but most of them are pretty much comedy gold. Like Heruru Meruru said, YouTube Poop is a hobby.

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Chincherrinas

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Yeah this type of overgeneralizing should happen less.

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MemeKirisame

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I'm thinking of having someone create a video sharing site for YTPs so USA Today or YouTube won't kill us down. (Also Viacom won't strike us up our Fair Use.)

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DSYTP

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3 hours ago, PancakeLord117 said:

It really disgusts me that these thick-minded degenerates think Elsagate and YouTube Poop are the same thing. If you are one of those people, let me say this:

YouTube Poop is a style of video editing where you edit a piece of media to make it crazy or surreal. It was never directed towards kids and kids' shows are not the only things subject to it (The Simpsons, King of the Hill, and Family Guy are adult shows and they have many YouTube Poops on them). Most YTPs are also non-profit so they aren't making any money off of the videos.

Elsagate IS targeted towards kids, and the creators want to make money off of them while showing them some of the most putrid things on YouTube that no child should be subject to. THOSE videos deserve to be taken down, not YTP.

Now do you see the difference? If you do, congratulations, I salute you.

 

Btw, very well written article!

That was a informal and detailed info that can effectively clear up the myth. 

Yes, YTPs can have subtle or explicit sex jokes, violence, swearing, or drug usage, but it is for comedy purposes. Elsagate has the same qualities as YTPs including fucking the kids' generations.

Edited by DSYTP
wrong word choice.

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terminatorX2

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16 hours ago, NationOfOranges696 said:

Society seems to just get more sensitive as the time goes by.

I have a feeling that society will turn all 1984-ish

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crashmatilda

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The money people make off Elsagate is a problem, BUT that's not the point of the article. The point is that kids are appealed to watch this explicit content in the first place. In that regard YTP can be pretty similar to Elsagate and I think we need to own up to that. Personally I'm glad he's bringing this to attention, since most parents would have no idea what YTP is.

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Nozdordomu

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19 hours ago, NationOfOranges696 said:

Society seems to just get more sensitive as the time goes by.

I don't think people being too sensitive is the problem; it's more people being ignorant.

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WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT

We did it guys we made it to the big leagues
way to go journos

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Ace-edo Mask

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I can see it now. THIS JUST IN! USA Today begins the Poopocalypse. Wall Street Journal approves!

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Ace-edo Mask

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@MemeKirisame Wouldn't that be nice for a change. To get a safe haven like Blip was for everyone's YTP's 

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Blockglitch

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well fuck. time to move over to vidlii entirely.

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SuperYoshi

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Youtube Poop, as perceived by the Talking Tech writer, is bluntly the work of “those who wish to manipulate, mislead, harass or even harm” [...] viewers.  

Well...I mean...he's not that far off.

I'm not sure how many young people are looking up clips of 25+ year old video game cartoons but I mean the whole point initially was to weird people out with fucking ridiculous titles and garbage video content.  Now that I think about the Johnny Johnny Yes Papa crew really did a better job than I did.  Oh well.

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thapoint09

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13 hours ago, Ace-edo Mask said:

@MemeKirisame Wouldn't that be nice for a change. To get a safe haven like Blip was for everyone's YTP's 

That's been tried before, and has never been successful.

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32 minutes ago, SuperYoshi said:

Youtube Poop, as perceived by the Talking Tech writer, is bluntly the work of “those who wish to manipulate, mislead, harass or even harm” [...] viewers.  

Well...I mean...he's not that far off.

I'm not sure how many young people are looking up clips of 25+ year old video game cartoons but I mean the whole point initially was to weird people out with fucking ridiculous titles and garbage video content.  Now that I think about the Johnny Johnny Yes Papa crew really did a better job than I did.  Oh well.

It's the "harass and harm" part that is really problematic, and the part where YTP should be differentiated.

But maybe the Elsagate crew will manifest its own community and forum, eventually evolving past the scam into a nascent, avant garde artform, and its underhanded roots will be discarded.  Only time will tell.

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SuccyLord

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parents don’t give 2 fucks about elasgate,but ytp is absolute EVIL to them.i mean,sexualized cartoons

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Ace-edo Mask

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@thapoint09 Whilst it's rare, you forget that Blip lasted YEARS. Hell, the only reason it died in the first place, is because Big Brother Galactus Mickey bought them out. 

AND YOU NEVER SAY NO TO THE MOUSE!

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Like I have said before, parents should know what their children is watching. And some children have interest in mature themes. It is their responsibility, after all.

It's natural for them to follow their curiosity, especially with regards to THE video sharing site in the internet. Naturally, Elsagate videos cater to that demographic, with clickbait and use of questionable themes. In order to solve this issue, should parents do something for their children, or should the system (in this case, Youtube) do something for the children? I'd say both are correct.

However, in the latter's case, it's not doing a good job, as many innocent creators have had videos demonetized, and thus is promoting self-censorship. The apparent demonization made against YTP through clueless cherrypicking is offensive and concerning, to say it lightly.  

Parents have the right to be concerned. There are many safe options for children, such as enabling restricted mode, or even the Kids app. They should be responsible for preventing their children from eating Tide Pods, after all.

In all honestly, children should not even use the internet, until they have matured and know for themselves what is best for them. The Internet is full of many questionable content, from fetish art in Deviantart to adult content and even YTP. But, the fact that the intent of most Elsagate videos to sell flat out porn to children is sickening.

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