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I keep gravitating to Soldier 76 because I can't do shit with anyone else, help

I had someone playing that booster guy pin me and then throw us both off a cliff. That was funny. But now I keep losing.

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Dognapalm

Pick bastion like 90% of new players, sit in a corner and get play of the game.

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The Pope

Eh, Bastion's one of my favs. And I try to be tactical with him. I think he's pretty rad.

Him and D.va are some of my top favorites. I liked McCree when I first played him, but I think I like DIE DIE DIE just a bit more.

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What was with all that controversy because of a character's "sexual" pose? I don't see anything extremely incorrect about that.

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Some guy just wanted to get laid so claimed it was sexist but instead of girls flocking to him they just laughed.

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The real problem was that the pose was sexy, it was that it wasn't indicative of the character. Tracy's a spunky, fun, lighthearted character, so having her just standing there flaunting her butt to the camera didn't work for her character. Meanwhile Widowmaker, a very sexy character, has plenty of sexy poses but nobody minds because it's a part of her character as a femme fatale.

This video on the subject can explain it better than I.

 

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I tried this game, it seems kinda bland so far. Perhaps it would be better if I play a bit more, but know knows?

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Dognapalm

As I said in the other thread, they replaced the pose with a pinup which is arguably just as 'sexy' as the original one. Anyway, I seem to be relegated to playing support most of the time, not that I mind lucio is fun as shit.

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Whelt

New pose is better than the old one. Not because it's less sexist, it just looks better.

Again, the problem is not that sexy characters exist. It's more that fiction often tends to create worlds where unattractive or normal looking people don't exist. Or they're the villains. I can forgive it in a game as cartoony as Overwatch, since not every work of fiction needs to represent real life and it's good to indulge on some fantasy once in a while. It only becomes immersion breaking if everyone is beautiful in an otherwise "realistic" world, or if a bunch of white guys are in ancient Egypt, or whatever.

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I have a Mei addiction. I just really like throwing walls at people, freezing them when they peek around the corner, and slamming an icicle through the back of their head. Just wish one of her quotes wasn't a lazy Frozen reference.

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Dognapalm

It's great when the other team has a really bad Mei that keeps splitting the team in half with poorly placed ice walls

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The awful dialogue between the characters is killing me.  I just hear Mei say "Wow Tracer, you're my hero, you're such an inspiration!" and then Tracer replies, "No, Mei, you're the real hero!"

Like holy shit, it's one step above "You did it!", "No, we did it!".  It's only an issue with aesthetics but I absolutely can not fucking stand how sterile and lame most of the heroes are in the game, they have all the personality and charm of soaked wood.  

Also there's some series issues with Bastion given how some maps are basically just designed around a single chokepoint and of course with the whole "shieldbot" Reinhardt meta matches at "higher level" play just turn into one team camping their Bastion and the other team just sitting on their dicks waiting for ults to charge.  It's like Team Fortress 2 but a lot worse and it really breaks the pace of games.  Doesn't help that Bastion will always get Play of the Game when he kills two whole people, followed by the McCree highlights where his ult scores one whole sick frag.

Another thing I've noticed, playing pretty much exclusively Reinhardt, is that it's obnoxious as fuck to tag 2-3 people in one long charge but then run out of walls to run into (or worse yet, tag a wall but just go sliding off of it) and the charge ends and then the people you bodyslammed just kill you.  If Reinhardt reaches max charge, it really needs to either damage the people you caught or at least send them flying backwards so you can try to escape.  The charge is one of the most fickle things I've ever seen, sometimes the tiniest corner cuts you off and sometimes a large corner just makes you sort of slide past it.  Another issue is the game doesn't make anything clear when it comes to what you'll charge through and break and what you wont.  A few times I've charged through rails and fell off the map because I wasn't sure if the rails were going to stop me or not.  It's a small problem easily corrected by playing the map but it's still an annoying one.  Another thing is sometimes you hit people pretty much dead fucking center to you and yet they bounce instead of getting caught.  This is probably just an issue of netcode/lag but it's still very annoying.

Reinhardt is pretty fun and I enjoy his aesthetics (except for his shitty fucking voice which is just a recycled WoW voice choo choo good job Blizzard keep the good work up, pay Steve Blum and that other anime voice actor guy some more fucking corn on the cob for their jobs well-phoned-in) aside from some issues with charging.  His shield is actually incredibly overpowered (as seen by the current "meta") and makes camping way too easy.  I feel that if he isn't moving around (i.e., camping the same place) the shield should recharge much slower.  This alone would not only promote Reinhardt and his team moving around a bit, but would stop this ridiculous "the whole game centers around the overpowered turret guy" meta at least a little bit.  All in all I still feel the game isn't very good and is just kind of a very typical low end FPS that pretty much should be f2p.

Edit: Another serious, perhaps even the biggest issue, I have with the game is the setup of the servers.  Maybe this is just because the game is still in beta and stuff and better features haven't been added, but queuing for matches like it's a hero arena/moba is terrible and the fact you get punished for leaving a match is just incredibly stupid.  It's a freaking FPS game.

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1 hour ago, appdirect said:

I tried this game, it seems kinda bland so far. Perhaps it would be better if I play a bit more, but know knows?

There's not much to it other than what you'll see at face value.  The gameplay isn't very in depth and none of the characters change through playtime (as far as leveling up/actually changing goes).  If Blizzard weren't a bunch of tools one thing I feel that would make the game feel so much better would be more responsive frags.  When I pin three people to a wall as Reinhardt and slam them to their death, it'd be nice to get a little more feedback other than the cowboy guy's hat falls off his head.  Getting a crit rocket in TF2 feels fun because it has a sound, visual and damage tag associated with it so you really feel like you just splatted a fucker when you hit them with the rocket.  If Overwatch had any shred of heart to it, you'd gib people as you slammed them into the wall and send a bunch of M Rated bits flying all over the place.  

Again, just an aesthetics thing but a lot of people are voicing the complaint that they think the game is super bland, and the "don't be offensive to anyone!" air the game exudes is a big, big part of that (roping back into how I talked about how shitty some of the canned dialogue between characters are.  Like, seriously.  "No, you're the real hero"?  What's next?  Is one of them going to suddenly quip, "We can do it if we just believe in ourselves, team!")  

1 hour ago, ReaderGamerSinger said:

What was with all that controversy because of a character's "sexual" pose? I don't see anything extremely incorrect about that.

Entirely fake controversy over how a character in a skin tight suit stood with their butt to the screen doing a generic "hero turns their back to the screen pose".  Solid Snake can do it and no one cares, but a female character does it and suddenly it's sexist!!!!

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King D. Supersepiroth

I'm not gonna lie. I think the whole Tracer controversy was set up by Blizzard, it's just way too perfect publicity-wise.

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i'm more of a d.va guy myself, but i would have zero issue with tracer sitting on my face

 

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JimPaladin

what if i told you d.va is thematically the shittiest character in the game....

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1 hour ago, Dognapalm said:

It's great when the other team has a really bad Mei that keeps splitting the team in half with poorly placed ice walls

That's me. I'm a-mei-zing.

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4 minutes ago, JimPaladin said:

what if i told you d.va is thematically the shittiest character in the game....

jim you don't like ANYTHING about this game why should we even believe that

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Just now, TyrannosaurusReich said:

jim you don't like ANYTHING about this game why should we even believe that

i like that u have shit taste about it : )

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